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AGENDA
Plaza One Meeting Room
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TUESDAY, MARCH 1 t, 2008 -WORK SESSION
10:00 AM Discussion with Owen Minney About Emma Store Property
12 NOON LUNCH BREAK
1:00 PM .Special Meeting/BOCC Converses As Board Of Health
Community Health Services Quarterly Update with the Board of Health, Nan
Sundeen, Liz Stark
Special Meetings BOCC Adjourns as Boas•d of Health
2:00 Consideration of Historic Site Designation for Greenway Parcel, Suzanne Wolff
?:30 BREAK
2:45 Memos of Interest
Future Agendas/Agenda Requests/Monthly Calendar
BOCC Open Discussion
4:15 PM ADJOURN
FRIDAY. MARCH 14, 2008 - CCI Steerin~Committee
Public Lands
Agriculture, Wildlife & Rural Affairs
Land Use & Natural Resources
Health & Human Services
APPROVED BY EOCG
MINUTES OF WORK SESSION
Date: March 11, 2008 Meeting Start Time: 10:00 am
Commissioners present:
^ Patti Clapper
^ Dorothea Farris
® Jack Hatfield
® Michael Owsley
® Rachel Richards
Commissioners not present:
® Patti Clapper
® Dorothea Farris
^ Jack Hatfield
^ Michael Owsley
^ Rachel Richards
WORK SESSION ITEM: Discussion with Owen Minney about Emma Store Property
STAFF DIRECTION:
Lance Clarke explained that Mr. Minney has a legitimate demolition permit for the property, and the BOCC
asked him to come in for a discussion regarding other options than demolition. Mr. Clarke explained the
discussions with the BOCC since 1996 about how the property might be used. Mr. Clarke recommended that
the County purchase the Emma Store property and possibly parcel off the Emma Store from the 12 acre parcel.
The property is adjacent to the trail, and could be a public open space/park like use. The major cost would be to
restore the buildings and Mr. Clarke recommended not restoring them to active habitable use, but to a state of an
historic monument. Mr. Clarke suggested funding sources could be from state grants, private fund raising,
county funds, open space funds or a ballot question.
Commissioner Owsley asked Chris Seldin if a Ballot question for historic preservation of structures throughout
the county, not just the Emma store, was possible and Mr. Seldin said yes.
COMMISSIONER CLAPPER JOINED THE MEETING AT 10:30.
Mr. Minney indicated a willingness to sell all or part of the property, but felt the initiative process would be too
time consuming and risky. He asked whether Open Space would be able to purchase the property. Mr. Will
explained that the Open Space & Trails Board has not discussed this purchase, but thought it would be a great
purchase. The historic structures could not be restored with Open Space funds. He gave an example of the
Redstone coke ovens, and the Lime Kilns as a joint Open Space purchase with grant funding to restore historic
structures. Mr. Will suggested having this discussion on March 25 at the joint meeting with the BOCC and
Open Space Board.
Jason Landis, Field Representative from Colorado Preservation Inc., explained that the Emma Store was listed
in 2000 as one of the state's most endangered historical structures. He outlined funding opportunities available
and stated that the Colorado Historical Society is very open to helping. The grant process is still very
competitive but doing an Historical Structure Assessment (HSA) will help to get a grant.
Discussion ensued regarding stabilization costs and the degree of stabilization for the buildings.
The Board asked Suzanna Reid's opinion. She stated that she thinks we now have some avenues toward
preservation that an HSA is a critical step, and we should move ahead because we have some great resources.
Jim Markalunas said he was optimistic that a solution can be found and the County should do anything possible
to acquire the property. He pledged $1000 toward restoration and encouraged others to do so.
Jack Johnson stated that he felt any ballot question toward forming a general historical district would pass, since
the Aspen Historical Society ballot question passed by over 60%. He wanted to know what we can do until a
district is formed.
Commissioner Richards stated that any loss of historic structures diminishes our history and that these buildings
define the entrance to Pitkin County. She recommended moving forward with the HSA and the purchase in
partnership with Open Space and Basalt.
Commissioner Owsley recommended a partnership with Open Space, the County and any historical resources.
He stated it is important to get the buildings in our possession, then stabilize them, and agreed that this should
be on the agenda at the joint meeting with Open Space on March 25.
Commissioner Hatfield had concerns about maintenance and management of the property, and affordability. He
stated he is willing to move forward but cautiously.
Commissioner Clapper felt it was important to do immediate stabilization.
Mr. Minney outlined other options for the property. Staff was directed to work with Mr. Minney regarding all
the options discussed, to pursue purchase of the property and interim stabilization solutions. This will be the
first topic of the discussion at the March 25 Open Space and BOCC meeting.
Special Meeting, BOCC Convenes as Board of Health
Special Meeting, BOCC Adjourns as Board of Health
WORK SESSION ITEM: Consideration of Historic Site Designation for Greenway Parcel, Suzanne Wolff
STAFF DIRECTION:
Suzanne Wolff explained the location of the cabin which Mr. Greenway is interested in preserving. She stated
that Mr. Greenway is asking for one TDR and the ability to build a new 1000 sf cabin on the parcel. She stated
that Suzanna Reid supports the historic designation. Ms. Wolff explained what is allowed under the new Land
Use Code. She said the purpose of today's discussion is for Mr. Greenway to determine whether he should
pursue submitting a land use application. Discussion ensued regarding TDRs and deed restrictions on the
cabins. Mr. Greenway presented some background information on the history of the cabin and the proposed
location of the new cabin. Comments from neighbors were taken. Commissioner Owsley raised concerns
about doubling the density with two cabins. Ms. Wolff told the Board that it is their discretion to determine
what is an appropriate incentive for the historic designation. Commissioner Richards said she thought that the
proposal was innovative and would like to explore it though a full application. She stated concerns about the
layering of incentives and precedent setting. She also stated concerns regarding how many TDRs can be granted
while still maintaining the integrity of the TDR program. Commissioner Hatfield stated he felt the application
has a potential to move forward. Mr. Greenway inquired about Pitkin County assisting him in a grant
application process.
WORK SESSION ITEM: Memos of Interest
STAFF DIRECTION:
1. 2008 Citizen Board Vacancies and Reapplicants -informational.
There was some discussion regarding having terms longer than two years. Staff will determine if there are
any Boards whose terms can be expanded.
2. Request for explanation regarding copy fees in Recording Department -informational.
The Board requested that Janice come to a work session this summer with the cost study to educate them
regarding the copy cost. The Board may want to address this at the next legislative session.
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3. Letter from Snowmass Village requesting donations for the 2008 National Disabled Veterans Winter Sports
Clinic in Snowmass Village March 29-April 5.
The Board directed staff to call Dick Merrit to find out if there is a local way to support the event. The
Board will re-visit this request next week. The Board would like Hilary to update them regarding what the
Airport staff and the County already contribute in-kind.
4. Internal Services Updates -informational only. The Chair asked if perhaps these reports could be more
brief. Since there were pages missing in the packet it will be included in next week's packet.
WORK SESSION ITEM: Future Agendas/Agenda Requests/Monthly Calendars
STAFF DIRECTION:
1. The Board requested that the Land Use Items be put under the appropriate categories on future agendas.
WORK SESSION ITEM: Open Discussion
STAFF DIRECTION:
1. The Board expressed frustration with the problem of forwarding e-mails to home addresses. Phylis will
bring the Board's technology issues up at the next quarterly technology meeting with Jim Considine.
2. Commissioner Clapper would like an update on the bark beetle legislation from Commissioner Hatfield.
3. Library Board Appointment: e-mail received from Kathy Chandler stating that Sean Keery has moved to
Carbondale and has resigned from the Board. They would like to appoint current alternate Elissa Taylor to
regular member status for a five year term. Approved.
4. Chairman Hatfield requested that Jim Elwood meet with the United Station Manager regarding after curfew
flights showing up on United's reservation web site even though they are not available.
5. Commissioner Owsley stated the newspaper article in which Sustainable Settings staff inferred that the
County regulations were to blame for their closure was not fair to the County, which was merely enforcing
health and safety regulations. Commissioner Hatfield stated that Commissioner Farris has requested an
update from Dale Will on the status of Sustainable Settings.
6. Commissioner Hatfield requested two agendas items for the next meeting with the Forest Services: bat
friendly gates and snowmobile activity on Richmond Ridge
7. Commissioner Hatfield would like John Ely to address the request from Glen Horn regarding the Centennial
land use Application at the next executive session.
8. The Board would like to discuss electric vehicles at open discussion next Tuesday after we get comments
from the City.
9. At some point in the future the Board would like to have a discussion about an historic preservation ballot
question.
10. Commissioner Clapper is applying for a regional seat on the Federal Advisory Council.
Adjourned at 4:15.
Prepared by:
Susan MurphyrExec tive Office Manager
Respectfully submitted:
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Jake K. Vos Caudill, Clerk and Recorder
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Susan Murphy
From: bgabow@sopris.net
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 4:46 PM
To: Susan Murphy
Subject: emma store
Susan,
Please forward this to all the commissioners.
Thanks,
Bruce
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930CC OFFICE
I've been reading about your dealings with Owen Minney and felt I must add another perspective. I
served on the Basalt Library Board for 5 years and we had extensive dealings with Mr. Minney
concerning his desire to sell us his property for a new library site.
He was always very unrealistic about the value of his property and extremely tenacious about dragging
on its eligibility even when it became clear that no-one but his realtor believed this to be a good option
for the Library District. I think you might need to be prepared for extensive and possibly frustrating
negotiations with this man if that's the road you choose to go down.
Good Luck,
Bruce Gabow
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