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Any pertinent„data must„accompany this app ica ion,
87-02
this Case No._
The Board may return this application if it does not contain .all the facts
in question,.-. Appl9,cant's description of proposed variance showing
justification:' Due to down zoning of entire area, require front set back.
variance of seventy five feet to twenty f%ve feet, side set back variance of
fifteen feet to, fifteen feet, and, rear set back variance of ten fleet to twenty
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Applicant Signatur/~~~~
Provisions of the zoning resoluL--ion requiring the Building Inspector to
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forward ,this application 'to"'the Board of Adjustment and reason for not,
granting a buiding permit:
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NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING
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BEFORE THE PITEIN COUNTY BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT
TO ALL PROP~HTY OWNERS AFFECTED BYyTHE REQUESTED ZONING OR USE
VARIANCE DES,GRIBED BELOW:
Pursuant to Pitkin County Resalution,of June 5, 19b5, as
amended, a Public Hearing will be held in the County
Gomm'issionerrs Room, Pitkin County Court House, Aspen, Colorado,
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{or at such other Face as the meetin may then be ad'ourne
consider an application filed with the paid Board.af Adjustment
requesting authority for variance from the provssions of the
County Zoning Resolution.
All persons affected by the proposed variance are invited, to
appear and state their views, protests or objections. If you
cannot appear personally at such meeting, then you are urged to
state your vies by letter, particularly if you have objection to
such variance, as the Board of Adjustment will give serious
consideration to the opinions of surrounding property owners and
other affected in deciding whether to grant or deny the request
for variance.
THE PARTICULARS OF TAE ,HEARING AND OF THE,REOUESTED. VARIANCE ARE
AS FOLLOWS:
Date and time of meeting: January 27, 1987 at 5;15 p.m
Name and Address of Applicant for Variance:
Louis Pasto#~
30282 Wingfoot Drive
Evergreen, CO 50439
Location of Property or Description:
Lot 16, Crystal River Park Subdivision
Pitkin County
Variance Requested:
75 foot froptyard setback variance
15 foot sdeyard setback variance
10 foot rearyard setback variance
Duration of Variance; Permanent:. XX ;Temporary.
Condition:
THE PITEIN COUNTY $OARD OF ADJUSTMENT
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Evan Gull, Chairman
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Dear Laura,
Enclosed please find the attachmenktof ad;7acent land owners„ for, the
variance request on Lot 16, Crystal Riyer~Subdivis~op, The afore „
mentioned, request b, ing submttted.by Louis Pastor to t'heme'oar o , a~`jus~~n~nt
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Thank you for~atten~ion on this matter;
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attorneyto act forme and in my name, p my sole use. and benefit, with full power and authority to do
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*This Power of Attorney shall automatically cxpircby rts own terms upon"c'ompletionof the limrted'putpose set forth above.
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The foregoing instrument was acknowledged bcforc me this ~'1 y-,,, day of ~-0 `? `~ ~d !~ , 19 ~,
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KNOW ALL MEN, BY '
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constitute and., appoint ROBERT,M000xMi Lx co ueuai=~~~y
in her name, to execute only those documents regardi
variance for setback purposes on Lot No 16, Crystal
Pitkin County, Colorado.
does hereby
AtEo=ney,`and
rig the proposes
Rive r, Subdivision of
GIVEN the power to use all means and processes in the law ,,for the full and
effectual execution of the bus~nes~s her4ei~n described, and n her name to
necessyry documents for ,the purpose aforemenfioned`.
to sa , do, act, transact, determine, accomplish, and
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finish all matters and thin s whatsoever relating to the aforesaid
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documents, as fully, amply, and effectually, to all intents and purposes,
as DENISE ANN ACEE if ,present, ought or might personally do.
IN WITNESS WHEREOF, DENISE ANN ACEE ,has hereunto set her and and seal,
this 16th. day of January, 1987. //l~
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STATE OF MARYLAND, COUNTY OF BALTIMO5RE16t'h day of January, 1987, personally
BE IT 'RENI~EMB`EF(ED,'That on this ~ to wit:
appeared before me,the subscriber, a Notaiy`~Publc in and. for theaState of
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Maryland, County of Bal`Eimore, and acknowledged the foregoing ins~`rument of
writing to be he'r act,,
My Commission Expires: ~l c_
STATE OF COLORADO, COUNTY OF PITRIN, to wit: 1987,
BE IT REMEMBERED, That on this day of ,
personally appeared before me the subscriberr, a Notary Public in and for
the State of Colorado, County of'""Pi"tkn, anc~ acknowledged the foregoing
instrument of writ'rig to be his act.
My Commission Expires:
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M7NIITSS
PITKIN COUNTY
BOARb OF AT)JiJSTT~IFN;'1'
January 27, 19$r
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Members F'rescnt: T3i11 Luke, Actin, Cha
Melinda Pearson '''
Toe Zanin _ .,. .. ..... ...
Spero Niarhgs
Robert. Miller
John Howarth
Feggy Seeger, 7.onpg Off:icia] was present with staff
recommendations.
T,ukes called the meeting to <irder. There we:rE. three sets of r a
minutes to be reviewed. Zanin made the motion to approve'thP
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minutes of September 30, 19'IIG, October ~LF3; 19~G and ;~ovember m
19£36. Niarhos seconded-the motion., All were xn favor.
Case.# 87 OI_z Barbara Stanford 302 As~ren Grove Cemc£ery Lnne
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Zanin stated tha£"hP would Ge a1~s"£axnxng from voting on 'this case
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because he is a hr~meowncr in~t'~i~e sup vi ion. $oworth a3so wg~"` ""
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abstaining because his firm is „empaye~ 'by Bax~iara S~`an~£orc~l` om
Smzth, Fitkin County Attorney was present. snd he h,egan £.tte ~ ~,
discussion. f{e explained that he had, been working with Itegg"y
of Zoning Official and the Building Bepartmenf lle
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askedrSeegec to explain the circumstances involved xn the posting
of the sign. Seeger remndeiT t~e Board th~f there was a~'~
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requiremenit that the sgri~be posted for" seven days prior ~o t`~'ie
hearing. She continued that,_the sign for the Stanford properly` `
was not visible curing a site visit earlier tiSa£ 'day.` She had
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also been notified by several property owners an January ,~~;..._."`~'
19f37, that the sign was not up: She had pictures of thg-site t_q ,
show the Board.` Teremy`Aernstein was present, representing
Barbara St'anford., He gonfirmed that the sign was `not there now,
but. had been posted at the proper time;"~on~Jthe"siign posit as ""`
Seeger had recommendet3., ,,Seeger clarified that she. had said on„ ~'
its own sign post, but that perhaps she had not made herself •,,;. ...,.,.__~._.
clear. Bernstein ,stated that•he had posted the sign with his
wife, Elysse F.lligt and tha£`she would be_able to confirm`that. a
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Bernstein asked, if anyone had seen the sign. Zanin and several
other homeowners,satd that they had seen it, but that had nqt
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remained up. N„ick McGrath was''present representing the some o,f
He felt_that,ell of the neighbor§had r~dceived
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noticenandnthat they would be willing"toywave` t'~e posEi~ng"`"
requirement, Lukes felt that they had demonstra}ed thati'the sign
had been posted. He asked if there were any`'other objections
dealing with the. sign. posting.
Bernstein or=gan his presentat.i.on by introducing Anrly Hecht. and
Barbara Stanford. Lukes requested that he explain to the Board
what they were, asking for and what. was the basis for the rCrlue::i.
Bernstein si;at:ed that they were asking foe a height variance, a
setback variance and an C'AR (flvr,r area ratio) variance. Bern--
stein felt: that this c,-~sP involved a gvvri faith misunderst;nnding
br-•iwecen Bar},ara Stanford and P~itkin Cmutt.y. He• ea:F~~lairn~d 1.h:+t
when Stanford purchased thy: itroperty, she thought she owned the
gr.-rvca t-oad that went, across leer pt-uperi.y, r}tc had a meeting
with the homevwna~rs association and offered to trade the gravel
road for some adjoining Irutd. "'he Cemaet^ry Asso~iaiion took t.he,
position i:hat: there was alreariy an easement for i:he road. Bern-"
ste:i.n explained that. there was a series of paat.s- Bernstr-•:in
explained. that it was difficult iv determine:, exactly wherre the
road begins and ends, because it. is a gravr:l road, bul. that it
has a beax-i.ng on ttte setback and FAR variances. Bernstein
explained that. if the setback was measurer{ :from the traveled
Portion of the road (photographs were Providedl then there was a
setback of thirty feet.. He aIsn qur;siioned which side of the lot.
sans the front yard. He felt. the i.ntr~nt of the front yard setback
was so the inhabitants d:id not :impact vn {:he road, an"d detc.rmnde
by where. the access was to the house. h'iarhos questioned wherre
the access was to the house, where the public way actually was.
Bernstein felt the ownership of tha= road ca as a difficult: issue
and for the purposes of this hearing, !.hey would concede
ownership of the road to Pi.tlcin County. The setback issue, he
cont.inueel was unexpected. The. 6uitdi.ng llr:part;ment had suggested
that the house be rotated ax•ounr}' io allow more glass area.
Stanford. did ne,t think there would be a prohl.em because she
considered her front. yard to he on the other si.¢e of the house.
Andy Hecht pointed out. that: the road was a road tq the cemetery,
if the Board c_onciuded that the side that bordered the gravel
t°vad' was the frontyard, ii :is not a highway or Heavily traveled
road and that. they dial have 30 ft. from the traveled portion of
the gravel road and they were only s;hyrt. a few feet if the road
were fully improved. Lukes asked hosa wide t}ie road i_s now. Dave
McFiride from Aspen Surveys was present.. He explained that the
width of the road varied, the road was irregular, it varies from
(Z to 18 feet.. McGrath asked if McBride had personally measured.
the road. McBride said that he had.
Smith wanted to explain the history of the lot. t.o the FSoard. The
Eastwood Subdivision Plat shows a County Road between Lots 1 and
2. There is no road in that. lvcat.ivn. There never has been a
road in that location. The rciad runs through Lot t and is knoson
as the Aspen Grove Cemetery Rrl. and has probably been there for
100 years. Smith submitted to the record an affidavit from
Warren Conner who has been n resident: of Aspen, his entire life
(63 years) and is very familiar with the area and has traveled
the Aspen Grvve Cemetery Road at. least vnce yr twir_e a year
since 1938. The affidavit indicates that, i:he Aspen Grove
Cemetery Lane as it i.s preseni.ly aligned has always been in t.hai.
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location, at least since 193£i. Smith 'felt the issue w•is now cne„ .,,.,....,,
setback is measured. He continued that the code is quite <:lear,_ _,
that the setback is measured from the e$ge of` t"'~~e right of way.'
The original plans submitted~to't"hp Building Department measure,, t
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the setback from the edge o~ the Count" Roa~,`whrch has never
existed except on
Dept. does nit insthe Eastwood Subdivision Plat The Building
pect eves site and had no way of~ltnowilg ili~at
public right of way existed on the lot In 1985, at a meeting in
his office,' Barbary Stanford hadr requ"e'sted~that tTie~ Cou;nrty ~riovF°'"
the road to the location on the Eastwood subdivision plat, she
Grove Cemetd that there was no base ~`or tfi'e Counl;y to do that
re is a historic right'of~gwa'y","rr~t own as~`,the Aspen
becauseothe''ery Road 'and there was no dedication for the road in ,.. i.
v.,~y.~w. .n1vWC, ,n •-i-ans, ara....~, I d,; Y-'~ha s
the location shown on the Eastwood plat Basically it appears
rs rn error. The building plane as
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g• rn er"ror Seeger had no 'w ay of knowing
that they were in error until,cgmplaiiits Megan to come in to the
' ent. At this time, Stanford was informe_~l_again
of~thenCounty°sm'posit.ion. Tf the County road were moved it w~ald
have to go through other private properties, It is the„C;qunty's
position that the setback;. should b_e measured from the edgE of the
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gravel road. Smith also parnte '"`"t~ 'l`_ ,;meane`~tia~ arbitrarily
assigned the roar] an eight foot right of way and there was no ~~'
basis to assume thaty He rontinued that the co3e"is clear on the
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definition of the front "ya`rd sett ac~;~ie access side of the '~o~
is the front- yard~fo`r~setback purposes (Sec 20 1, Sec 3 2). He
argued that there would be no uniformity rn""~``ront yard setibacks
if were to depend on where a homeowne,r_ loca~ed h,~s.Wdrivewav fie
also pointed out in this ca~e__irtt was clear"hwliat"si~e *of4~c ,1~~ ~~,~~~.~y
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was accessed from the public right of way e ui
had requested a precise measurement from the road and had not r
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received i.t'yet, so Smitfi was not sure how much of a variance was
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necessary. Lukes asked if the a plicant had better i`nfor `~" `~~"`~~ ~~"~~
:d the problem ~ ~ ,.._ ~~
McBride explainP 'n measuring where the gravel road
began. The applicant would be comfortable with ah4ft variance
Smith,contlnued that Seeger did not have the ail"tliarrty to a`~Yow
violate the code, if it were not For all the aomo n4,aY,r,
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plaints from the community, she would Have no"p"roblem suggesting
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that the Board grant Stanfor a be i'nvolved'in complying with EhP
expense and hardship that`"would 3 ft. variance because of the
code, even though zt was, they felt,"a hardship of her own'
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making. .
McGrath wanted to address the _se;tback problem from the iiome-
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owner's Association point Of view. His first exhibit was aTn
easement agreement between the,_,Cemetery Association and ~~e
of Aspen. The City had needed a location- for 2 water tanks
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the Cemetery association had a. ~eedgthat they could be I~.~W~
the cemetery property. The Cit re nested a 30 ft easement
where the road connects to the County Hoad,. He pointed out
the 'C aunty does maintain the road, their snow plowing equipn
cannot plow an eight foot road. Smith submitted t,o the~cecc
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memo from Tom Newland, County Planning Engineer that stated that
the road is maintained by the County, part of the County road
system, included in highway user fund system.
McGrath continued that the City had needed a minimum of 20 feet
to maintain the water main that goes along the city and county
road, but had requested 30 ft. He also submitted to the record
map that. Larry Frederick had drawn. He showed the Boardmembers
where the neighbors homes were located. Frederick had measured
20 ft. right of w<,y in place. Frederick had measured from the
last time the road had been plowed. He felt it was wider in the
summer. The road accesses the I{el.ly property and the Cemetery.
Frederick measured, latterly in ten ft. increments, from the
road, using a 20 ft. right. of way, to thc: house and got
measurements of 22' 6" and to the second pillar 23' 6". McGrath
stated. it was the applicants burden to provide accurate
information and they disputed the information that had been
provided. They thought the setback violation was between 8' 4"
to 6' 4" which the neighbors felt was very significant.
Niarhos askeck what: a reasonable road width was. Newland replied
that a driveway standard which requires an 8 - 16 ft. width and
one lane of traffic.
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McGrath po:inteci out that; the Board was not here to decide what
the width of the road should be, only to decide if they were
going t.o gx-ant a variance from where the road is.
Lukes felt that he didn't want to spend too much time on the
width of the road, he felt the location of the road was generally
agreed on; he felt the question was were the variances
justifiable, appropriate and whether there were hardships
involved. He continued that whether the variance was 4 ft. or 6
ft. did not change any of the facts involved.
Lukes asked when the building permit was submitted. Seeger
replied .it was originally submitted 5/12/86. Seeger continued
there had been 5 surveys submitted, each varying on some issues.
Smith stated tlxat the gravel road was never surveyed, but simply
sketched in. The homeowners and Smith had asked for a survey
showing the road :in place and the distance from the road in place
to t}xe house. Lukes felt there was a 3 - 5 ft. area in question.
Pearson asked hoca the house was pointed. Seeger replied that
Heiser had pointed the two back points of the house. Bernstein
explaineck that originally the house was aligned differently and
there had not been a setback problem. The Building Department
had suggested in order to get the maximum glass area that she
rotate the house. When the house was x•otated it created the
height and setback problem. Seeger was not aware of any comment
from the Building Department about the house's position. Smith
pointed out that the Building Department does not do the
designing. Bernstein stated that they were not suggesting that
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the Ruilding Dept. was responsible, he continued that the
Building Dept had keen very helpful. Seeger stated that
from her department, or to her knowledge, from the FSuiidi
Department had made that statement She also stated-that
surveys that she had seen had the house i~ocae~ in the s<
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location. Niarhos poin't:ed out That the dimensions of t
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under construction„was bigger that the` dimensiions „o f.-,tie,
Smith•saidkhs asked., for any other comments on the tgad i
e wanted it, to he dear that Peggy had appro
original plans based on what was'~suhmitted ~o her Seegf
explained tci the $pard that on the sur`v'ey the County rig,
was shown below the gravel road, She thought thati was t.l
There was no reason for her to doubt 'the Iodation of th
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i.t was in a subdigision that had ~ieen approve' an signe
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It measured about 45 ft. , wellmwithirr the 're'quirem`en't.
also pointed out that McGrath and he ;had met with'Stznf
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advised her of the existence of the Aspen rove eme ery ..,., ,..at ~
it w>as public road and_it was not gnii~g 'iro b~e mo'ved, before the
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plans were submitted. Mr.Grath felt that anyone who... had, be
the site would have know that the document was misleadin
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of the. designations gravel'road'and`Coun£y raad`:"''1'~ie
measurements were taken from across the road in place. ca
totally improper. ~ Bernstein wante'~cr~to carry one point
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Stanford purchased the lot., her'subdiyision"plat sowed"
ft. County Rd. and she honestly believed that the road
have been at the edge of hover 'property, she had no inteii
mislead anyone. dukes pointed out that intent should b
some other forum. Bernstein continued that constructio
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in July, 1986. The first notice of complaint at ate w
of was dated 11/10/86, at that time fCie house was 75% c
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McGrath said that,gvgry land owner present had called t
Building Department in June and that_„they had a meeting
Smith on 6j',10/86, he wanted to make it clear.,"`hat Stanf
known that `the County owned the road and-that she was m
the setback incorrectly and she did not inform Seeger't
was any dispute over the location of tTxe road.` Bernste'~
that there were many things that could have Teen one, ~
that waiting until the hpuse was 75% complel;e to'f~`7.e'"tl
complaint. Pearson asked' if -there was` a md'p?''available
showed theprope'rty lines'anil~how tlie.ouse were situa`~i
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submitted his copy of the Eastwood Su ~on'pclat'~S
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stated that she had never thought of a setback problem,
she thought of th'e frontyNard~as on the ofher' sz,dg of th
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she also thought she owned the gravel road, because she.
for it. She stated that she had no intent to mislead a
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Smith pointed out that the sµtatement she hack ,7us~ made
contradicted by the plans submitted b'y Stan ord on I2/9
show a 30 ft. front yard setback on the side. with the g
road. Smith showed the,Bpard that the CountyRo'ad was
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same place as the County Road on tie survey sulimit'te~ b
Stanford, the Aspen Grove Cetnetery Road is located to t
of where the. County Road is located o,n the plat. it`is
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at. all on the plat. Lot 1 would include the Aspen Grove Cemetery
Road. The dedication language on the Eastwood Subdivision Flat
does not include language dedicating a County Road in the
location shown on the plat. Sm.i,th continued that he had
discussed the matter with Chuck Vidal and he had said he could
not remember since it had been 20 years ago, but that he cou).dn't
imagine proposing to move the road. There is no record of the
County accepting or doing anything to move the road from where
i.ts historically been. He felt: it was a mistake in the Eastwood
Subdivision plat.
Lukes asked Bernstein t.o state the hardship basis (pursuant to
the code) for the three variance requests. Bernstein felt t;he
hardship was From the steepness and pitch of the lot. If the
allowable floor area was built on the lot,, due to the drop off,
they had run into the height problem.
Fearson asked if the Board was in agreement about where the front
yard setback side was. Lukes replied that they had not. voted on
it. Smith pointed out that it was a serious consideration,
because if the homeowner was able to chose which side would be
the front yard, the Board would have no control. Niarhos felt it
was not the access to the home, but the access from the road
that was the determining factor. Niarhos made the motion that
the Board accept the language used by Smith in defining access
to the property from the right of way as being the front yard of
the property, which in this case would be the southern portion of
the lot. Pearson seconded the motion. The motion passed 4 - 0.
Bernstein began his discussion on the height question. h'hen the
house was rotated around, the house was moved onto the pitch and
caused the height problem. The Building Department came out to
do an inspection and informed Stanford of the height problem.
Hagman redesigned the roof. Bernstein presented an affidavit
from Larry Doble and Bob Sutherland that stated that at a meeting
on October 9, 1986 with Jim Wilson of the Building Department
that they had found a solution to the problem. They had dropped
the roof 7-1/2 ft. The Building Department inspected the house
in November and they informed Stanford that the roof was between
6 inches to 4-1/2 ft, too high. Michael Manchester was present.
He explained that he only become involved in the project a few
weeks back. He had a model of the house as built before the
change. He had two drawings of the house as built. Fie explained
that the roof was lowered to a 4-12 pitch, and a new truss design
was made. He showed how much of an encroachment there was.
Lukes asked Seeger if there was a clear problem and the Building
Department, tried to work with the applicant. Seeger gave the
Board a quick history of the project--10-16-86, due to the
numerous complaints, Bill Drueding, Zoning Enforcement Officer
took pictures of the house and measured the house with the
construction crew and the house measured about 39-I/2 ft. Seeger
contacted Stanford that day and alerted her to the problem and
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that it would have to be cprrected She had to get a ridge
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elevation dine by s surveyor. A'meeting~was'he~d af" 10%2"1 86"q
Seeger's office with herself, Tim "h~i7son";` Building Official,
Stanford and tier c9t?tractor, Bob Sutherland They had a survey
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done that day by Mr•: Mct{enzie o£`Alpine S`urveyti; £hat showed the
top roof o~~er Chc>, 7 ft that it was expected to be;. That_ survey '„
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was not snbniitted tp the Building Dept`:" Stanford felt there was..
some probletiis and wouldp get back- to 'the Building_Dept. 10'/27/86,
a meeting was scheduled, no one showed up. 1OJ28/86, a meetn g
was scheduled, no oi7e showed up. 10/29/86, there was a meeting"'
between Seeger,'S9ilsan, Stanford, Larry Doble and Tim Hagman.
There were $l:,etches without dimensions or elevations shown
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There teas not enqugh in.~ortn °€ion a€ "`~~t meeting or i son or
Seeger to det;ermitre if the revised drawings complied with";the,,
pp , . r ..~ h"at~ Alpine "Surve"gs `w"~ts` .,.. ,
height limitations. Stanford stated t
su osed to have dropped off a survey..' Seeger rapl4ed that she
had not. recci~ed tfint .:uryey. Smith asked if she .attempted to
get that information at that meeting. '"Seege"r "r"eplied that she
had explained exactly what was necessar}~. On 11/1.7/86 she had „-
contacted Sutherland, Hagman, Survey Engineers bn that, day'
Wilson had ,.contacted them. On 11/25/86 a survey and drawings
were submitted but were incomp'l`ete and did nowt shpw the
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equested t On 12%d/86, Seeger contacted"Bern rein an formally
r he information. Smith asked if~Seeger had received
thevinformatian before a 's'top 'ta rk or"~edr ~ia`~d"`~een„ ,issued ' Seeder "
re lied that she, had received the survey on 12/10/86, the
before the„s qp work order was issued,,,, Smith stated tha€x he a.
would not dispute the affidavits_Lhat were presented`,°'bu€ his:` „•
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question was that a resp~hszbleconclusion to come y,;~o~after ~ wix
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everything they had heard from`_Seeger: Seeger also
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the last thing that she said at the meeting was to ,lust make sure_
the height does not exceed 28' at mxdp nt and does not g~o° 5'
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above that... Bernstein felt tha m• "u
who said what, he said when Seeger formally requested the
informat.iori, he confirmed it with a letter, because he felt that
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the request for information had no€ been tr~ansmzf`t'~ed correctly
Bernstein continued that 'Stanford had been frantic, s e e t the ""
contacted professionals and's~ie`~h`~ad" w~al`"k"~ed~ away t"~iin+l`cxng the
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actuallywss solve s e the ar '~thai t"'hey `had been acting
in good fa~th, and thisewouldmb~e c ~thard lowe~lt at as, "'
Lukes oirj g of the roof.
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p ted out that the dra ngsn fhat c$er'e ~'su~imitted by Tlagman `
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did show compliance with.. the code, bu£`tlie subsequent building
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did not comply with the code. 'Bernstein agreed that it did not
comply.. T.ukes didn't see any misleading by the Building`Dept.'
Bernstein felt it was an honest misunderstanding Smith asked,.
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Bernstein if he was saying that the ~uaing~ept."~ ~aut1S`oYiz`ed the „
code to be violated. Bernstein replied that he was not
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Bernstein stated that the Building D'`ep~'. had reviewed the,, plans
and said yes this would work, and he `realized that;, the Building
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Dept. was not responsible for errors in construction or plans
that are i.'ncorrectly drawn. Bernstein felt there was a~,clear
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attempt to cooperate with the Building Department and the
affidavits showed that two professionals had walked away with a
clear feeling that they had a solution to the problem. Seeger
restated that on the day of the meeting, nothing was complete and
nothing was submitted. Niarhos asked to see what was approved.
Bernstein said it was his understanding that: the Building
Department commonly gave verbal authori.zati.on• Seeger replied
that she did give some indication or guidance but that she never
approved anything structural without a permit. Lukes stated that
he had a problem with getting involved in that issue, because
clearly what had come out of the meeting was to comply with the
code. Bernstein agreed. From the originalf roof to the new roo:F
is about a 6 ft. difference. He can't i:e).1., there are functional
things that are expected to he worked out. in the field.
Manchester was asked if there were structural. solutions to the
problem. He replied that there arc, solutions, all would require
removing roof. Pearson asked if the grading was much lower than
the original grading. Manchester said that rough grading is 1R"
lower that the original.
McGrath pointed out that the plans for the house had 10 ft.
pilings. The house in place today had 18 ft. 6 in. pilings. He
felt. that was significant. He presented a rough sketch of the
area and showed where the various neighbors lived. He pointed
out; that all. of the houses were below tree line. He continued
that in the summer, because they were all below tree line, they
afforded privacy to all neighbors. He presented pictures of all
the houses with a brief explanation of they related to the
Stanford house. He continued that it was the only house that was
built on pilings above tree line.
Niarhos asked Manchester if the encroachment was 8/10 ft.
Manchester replied that it was not, because of the low pitch,
they were controlled by the midspan. Seeger explained that the
violation varied from 6" to 4-1/2 ft. The midspan problems are
the greatest. Manchester wanted to explain the basis for his
numbers was to take the information from the surveys. The
existing grade information is missing. He took that information
from the research plan and had to do an overlay of the two
drawings to get grade vs. partially completed house, he felt that
could account for the difference. He felt that all measurements
matched. Seeger pointed out that she h.ad asked for existing
grade. McBride cannot give the existing grade if it has been
disturbed.
Frederick had 2 photos showing the Stanford house and the impact.
on his own. He questioned the difference in the pillars.
His basic complaint was the height and its impact on the
neighborhood, he felt it was a shame to allow that house to be so
obtrusive. He felt the height, setback and FAR should he
considered as violations.
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Lukes asked if the entire lot was measured, would the FAR be in
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compliance. Seeger replied it would be Smith replied that, if_
what they thought the correct measurements were used, the i
violation would be 144 sq. ft. Zf the'mechancal'room were '
filled, and the rogf lowered so it could not be used as livable 4
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iPawas goinFAR problem w~utd be allc~via~.ec~ ,"a~ernein~„felyt ~th~F~Aw re ,rr ,
' ~ g to be for storage, there is no possi6t~iy ofrya
bandit unit;: Bernstein,felt it war anNexpensive way to correct
the mistake.. ,._. .. -~~- s n.
Frederick stated he had,n~t heard a reasonw•why a variance should
be granted. He felt variances shoulde granted before the
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building is built, Any reasonable person would have known there ,
was going to be a problem. He continued that he had no problem
with someone trying to maximize what was le-gaily allowed nn the
lot, he had trout~le believing that this was due to„innocent
errors. ,; _ _.,,
Bernstein pointed out that if ttie house were moved .back 3'ft it
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would still'be a large house with open spare at%~=Eie bottom
Manchester said the the probable solutions would probably have
solutionlwould~cost aboutwau$755000.1aHeeexplaine~t~that.fthevthe
would be willing to plant vegetation to lessen the impact.
to comply w;lie Lindner wanted to say that they had been required
Rick and Juith the code a,nd it wasn't fair that the Stanfords
would not be required to. Andrew Doremas a Yee e e~`L~f'`~~'th'~a`~t'`°~~ "' ~"'rx
everyone should be_required to follow,,,the same code
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Lukes opened the case up to Board discussion. Pearson dial not 1
feel comfortable granting a variance when shed},d no,t understand
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the hardship. Niarhos wanted to know what t:he actual
' A discussion followed about the discrepancy
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between the Building Dept. measurement an'~R~ie applicants "
measurement, Niarhos questioned whether it was the massiveness
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of the house or the height of the house t,hdt they were concerned
with. Pearson felt that problem was `compounded by the setback'
violation. Niarhos questioned if the' overhang was brought back,
would the height probably be within code. Lukes explained that
the height and bulk of the house, the edge of the gravel road is
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hard to define, but is reasonably ace
surveys, it looked to him that it was about a five yard front
yard setback variance. He felt that in considering the height
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Derartmenthe Board should use„the information t~ia~`the Building
p had provided. He felt that tie
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1/2 - 4-1/2 ft. was withn,the,omargin6s of reasonableeeb~o~ee~"~a"-
everyone had tried to come up with an decorate measurement. He
suggested the Board members use numbers that. reflect the'$uslding
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De artments measurements; a 5 ft. front yard setback, 4 /2
builttaccordi~g'requirement. Niarhos'felt,that"if the owners had
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to plans there would no't haye,heen a pro~i~e,m.
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The applicant had submitted incorrect infoi°mation.
Stanford explained what she felt: the hardships were: for the
setback, they believed that they owned a lot thai: they could
count. the whop lot for the setback and FAR, it. was not a
consideration, until the }louse was built, she felt that she had
done. everyt.h.ing t;~ conform. Niarhos felt that ignorance on the
part of the applicant was not a hardship. McGrath reminded the
Board that Stanford was ai a meeting with the Frederick, the
Lindners, Smith and himself, it was discussed that the road could
not be included in i:he calculation for the FAH and brad to be
considered for her setback and he felt that was nol a hardship.
Pearson felt. that the surveys had adds°~ssed the front. yard survey
and she felt the, problem had been precipitated by the owner.
Bernstein poini;ed out that. McGrat.h's perception of the meeting
and his clients perception of the meeting were different. Smith
suggested ghat as a matter of procedure, a recommendation to
staff to prepare a resolution that would he approved at the next
meeting emhody:ing the substance of the meeting and the decision.
Bernstein brought up possibility of tabling the issue until more.
accurate information could be provided. Niarhos made a motion
the the Board of Adjustment direct staff to prepare a document
outlining all issues, submitted by both parties that had been
brought up at this meeting that could he voted on at the next
meeting. Niarhos made the motion t:o deny the variance oix the
setback due to lack. of hardship, the height variance due to lack
of hardship and approve the F'AR variance. Luker second the
motion. Pearson felt that the FAR variance was tied in to the
other. Luker felt. the basis for calculating the FAR liad to be
objective and should be measured from the four corners. Pearson
questioned tlxan if that were the case than they couldn't use it
foz° the setback measurement. Niarhos said he was assuming that
the gravel road was an easement, not. a right of way. Smith felt
it was a prescriptive right of way. He felt which ever decision.
was made i.t should be consistent. Luker and Pearson agreed.
Luker withdrew his second. Niarhos withdrew his motion. Pearson
made the motion to direct the staff to review the recommendations
made by the Board of Adjustment and recommended that the setback
variance be denied do to lack of hardship, the height variance be
denied due to lack of lxardship and the FAR variance be denied due
to lack of hardship. Niarhos seconded the motion. Luker,
Pearson, Niarhos and Miller were in favor. Zanin and Howorth
abstained from voting. Motion was passed 4-0.
~~ - Louis castor Lot 16 _ Crustal River Park
Subdivision. Luker designated that he would not be voting, all
other members would be voting. Robert McCormic}c was present
representing the applicant, he explained that the lot was in
Redstone in the ax•ea that was downzoned to AF-1, which requires a
setback of 100. Pastor was asking far a setback of 75 front yard
setback variance a 15ft sideyard variance on both sides and 10
ft. rear yard setback variance. Luker asked if the sign was
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posted. 7.anp pointed out that .the Eoard had ,not ever granaed a
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variance to a building envelope. McCormick4YexpTained that 'the
applicant wanted to center the house, but it was dependent on
where the septic system was located. Zan,in made a motion that
case be tabled until applicant could provide t"he $oard'with
information about the size and location of the house. Niarhos
seconded the,moti~n. Allwere'in favor Motion passed 5 0.
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Niarhos made the motion to adjourn. Pearson.,. seconded it. .All
were in favor. Meeting was"ad;jotiirned.
Respectfully submitted,
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Secret°ary _ `
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Joe Zanin moved that the following be adopted:
BEFORE THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT
OF THfi COUNTY OF PITEIN
STATE OF COLORADO
RESOLUTION N0. 87=02
Louis Pastor, Lot 16, Crystal River Park .Subdivision
WHEREAS, the subject property is within the unincorporated area
of Pitkin County, Colorado; and,
WHEREAS, the Board. of Adjustment is vested with the power to
grant or deny such variances by virtue of Title II, Section
16-1.3, Pitkin County code (Land Use Code') and Colorado Revised
Statutes, 1973, 30-28-118(2) (C); and,
WHEREAS, based on the evidence presented, the Board of Adjustment
makes the fallowing findings:
1. Proper notice procedures, including the
notification of all adjoining property
owners, has been shown by the applicant.
2. The required hardship or practical difficulty
has been established.
3. Granting such relief will not cause substan-
tial detriment to the public welfare and will
not substantially impair the intent and
purpose of the Zoning Resolutions and the
zoning maps.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT REStlLVED that the applicant's request for a
75 ft. frontyard setback variance and a IO ft. sideyard setback
variance.
Additional conditions or restrictions:
WARNING: Any violation of the terms of this resolution may
result in rehearing and possible revocation.
Bill Lukes seconded the adoption of the foregoing Resolution.
The roll having been called, the vote was as follows:
Evan Gull - yes
Bill Lukes - yes
Kandi Shaffran - yes
Joe Zanin - yes
Melinda Pearson - yes
The Resolution was adopted by vote of the Board of Adjustment of
the County of Pitkin, State of Colorado.
DATED: 2/24'./87
Attest:
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Secretor
The Board of Adjustment of
Pitkin County, Colorado
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Chairman
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