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REGULAR MEETING AGENDA
Plaza One Meeting Room
WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 11, 2012 -12:00 NOON
Additions/Deletions to Agenda
Public Comment, Commissioner Comments
CONSENT ACTIONS
1. Resolution Appointing Commissioner Chair and Vice - Chair, Representatives to Various Boards,
Committees and Authorities, Susan Murphy
2. Minutes of Work Session of 12/06/2011, 12/13/11, 12/20/11 Special Meeting of 12/13/2011, and
Regular Meeting of 12/21/2011
3. Resolution Appointing Bobbie Burkley as Joint Alternate on the Housing Authority Citizen Board,
Charlotte Anderson
CONSENT ACTIONS- 1st Readings, Set for Public Hearing on January 25
4. Ordinance Authorizing the Trail License Agreement with the Meadowood Metropolitan District,
Barb D'Autrechy
CONSENT PUBLIC HEARING, 2 " Reading
5. Ordinance Prohibiting the Consumption of Alcohol on Unlicensed Public Premises for the Duration
of the 2012 Winter X- Games, John Ely
6. Ordinance Authorizing the Board to Enter into a Lease Agreement with the Bureau of Land
Management for the Crown Mountain Communication Site, Jodi Smith
7. Resolution Authorizing Pitkin County to Enter into an Intergovernmental Agreement with Eagle
County for the 2011 -2014 Season of Snow Removal in the Frying Pan Valley, Melissa Sever
8. Resolution Establishing the Formula for Distribution of the Municipal Share of County Sales Tax
Revenue for the Year 2012 as required by Resolution 78 -121, Susan Atwood
9. Resolution Providing Supplemental Appropriations to the 2011 Budget (August through November)
John Redmond and Susan Atwood
LAND USE PUBLIC HEARINGS
1. Barta Parcel Subdivision/PUD Conceptual Submission, Activity Envelope Review, GMQS
Exemptions, and Major Plat Amendment, 1 Reading, (Continued from 12/21/11, )PH (PN 6/12/11),
S. Wolff
2. Barta Parcel PUD Rezoning, 1 Reading, (Continued from 12/21/11), PH (PN 6/12/11), S. Wolff
3. Flying Dog Ranch West Inc Designation to Historic Register & Historic Incentives, GMQS
Exemption for Change in Use, Special Review Amendment, PH (PN 12/8/11), S. Wolff
BOCC OPEN DISCUSSION
ADJOURN
APPROVED BY BOCC
ON _ 2 o I �--
MINUTES
BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
REGULAR MEETING
JANUARY 11, 2012
NOTE: For all staff memorandums and associated documents, including additional
exhibits submitted to the record, refer to the BOCC PACKET FOR JANUARY 11, 2012.
CALL TO ORDER: Chairwoman Rachel Richards called the Board of County
Commissioners Regular Meeting to order at 12:00 PM.
COUNTY COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT: Rachel Richards, George Newman,
Jack Hatfield, Michael Owsley and Rob Ittner
COMMISSION MEMBERS ABSENT: None
ADDITIONS /DELETIONS TO THE AGENDA: County Manager Jon Peacock informed
the board that staff will be adding a letter to the BOCC Open Discussion portion of
today's agenda for a motion to sign. The letter is to the BLM on SG Interests' Proposal
to Unitize Lake Ridge Unit; 3180 (CO -922).
PUBLIC COMMENT: Dan Kitchen approached the board to talk to them about fireworks
and the effects on human, wildlife and domestic pet populations. He spoke about how
sensitive wildlife and domestic pets are to those fireworks. He also questioned whether
fireworks and the equipment used to ignite and propel them were biodegradable. He
asked if the board could look into banning fireworks, limiting them to a few choice
locations such as Aspen Mountain.
NOTE: The board gave staff direction on this item at the end of today's meeting under
the BOCC Open Discussion portion of the agenda.
COMMISSIONER COMMENTS:
Commissioner Hatfield wished everyone Happy New Year.
Commissioner Newman announced that January was National Radon Action Month.
He said that it's an opportunity offered by the City of Aspen and Pitkin County to give
away free Radon Kits for citizens for Radon levels in their homes. It is the leading
cause of cancer in non - smokers and the second leading cause of cancer to smokers.
BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS 1 REGULAR MEETING JANUARY 11, 2012
He encouraged everyone to take advantage of this offer and go to City Hall's 2nd floor if
you are a resident of the City and the 3rd floor of City Hall if you are a Pitkin County
resident.
The board congratulated and thanked outgoing Chairwoman Rachel Richards for her
service as Chairwoman of the BOCC for 2011.
Chairwoman Richards thanked the board and said that it is always a great experience
and it's always a challenge. She said that she had a great board to work with and she
appreciated everyone's patience and indulgence and gentle corrections, as required
from time to time. She added that it has also been great to work with our new Manager
Jon Peacock. And of course, our staff, Lyndee and Jeanette who help keep track when
we've not closed a meeting or opened a meeting or need to make special motions and
keeping us all on track.
Chairwoman Richards joined Commissioner Hatfield in wishing all a Happy New Year
and to looking forward to better times ahead as a country.
She also said that she did want to emphasize that the Bureau of Land Management
Resource Plan comments are due from our citizens on January 17, 2012. She thanked
staff for working so hard on this
As is customary for Chairwoman Richards, she asked for a moment of silence for a
prayer of peace that the current positive turnaround will continue for all involved in these
conflicts and that 2012 is one of those years we can really be thankful for.
CONSENT ACTIONS:
READING ON RESOLUTION APPOINTING COMMISSIONER CHAIR AND VICE -
CHAIR, REPRESENTATIVES TO VARIOUS BOARDS, COMMITTEES AND
AUTHORITIES — MOTION TO APPROVE
STAFF: SUSAN MURPHY, EXECUTIVE OFFICE MANAGER
Chairwoman Richards informed the public that this is the meeting traditionally when
they change the Chair and make their appointments to various boards throughout the
year. She wants everyone to know of the additional work that the Commissioners do
outside of this room. Following are those appointments:
Chair Michael Owsley
Vice -Chair Jack Hatfield
Aspen Chamber Resort Association Michael Owsley
Alternate Rob Ittner
Colorado Counties
Public Lands Rachel Richards, Alternate Jack Hatfield
Agriculture, Wildlife, Rural Affairs Jack Hatfield, Alternate Rachel Richards
Land Use and Natural Resources Jack Hatfield, Alternate Rachel Richards
Health & Human Services Rachel Richards, Alternate Jack Hatfield
BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS 2 REGULAR MEETING JANUARY 11, 2012
Health & Human Services Proxy Nan Sundeen
Proxy for all other Committees Jon Peacock
Tourism and Resorts Rachel Richards, Alternate Jack Hatfield
General Government Jack Hatfield, Alternate Rachel Richards
Taxation and Finance Jack Hatfield, Alternate Rachel Richards
Transportation & Telecommunications Rachel Richards, Alternate Jack Hatfield
Legislative Committee Jack Hatfield
Colorado River Water Conservation District John Ely
Community Office for Resource Efficiency George Newman
Alternate Rob Ittner
Northwest Co Council of Governments Rob Ittner
Alternate George Newman
NWCCOG Water Quality /Quantity Rachel Richards
Alternate George Newman
RFTA Board of Directors Michael Owsley
Alternate George Newman
Ruedi Water & Power Authority Michael Owsley
Alternate Rachel Richards
Rural Resort Region Rob Ittner
Alternate George Newman
RRR Workforce Investment Board Rob Ittner
RRR Workforce Development Board Rob Ittner and Nan Sundeen
Other Appointments (not required by resolution, ordinance or intergovernmental agreement)
BLM Liaison George Newman
Colorado River Round Table Basin Rachel Richards
Alternate George Newman
Nordic Council George Newman
Water Liaison Rachel Richards
West Elk Loop Scenic Byway Committee George Newman
Intermountain TPR George Newman
MINUTES OF THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS' WORK SESSION
MEETINGS OF DECEMBER 6, 2011, DECEMBER 13, 2011 AND DECEMBER 20,
2011; SPECIAL MEETING OF DECEMBER 13, 2011; AND REGULAR MEETING OF
DECEMBER 21, 2011 — MOTION TO APPROVE
STAFF: LYNDEE R. DEAN /JEANETTE JONES, CLERKS TO THE BOCC
READING ON RESOLUTION APPOINTING BOBBIE BURKLEY AS JOINT
ALTERNATE TO THE HOUSING AUTHORITY CITIZEN BOARD — MOTION TO
APPROVE
STAFF: CHARLOTTE ANDERSON, EXECUTIVE ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT
Commissioner Hatfield moved to approve the Consent Actions portion of the
agenda as presented. Commissioner Newman seconded the motion.
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Commissioner Hatfield thanked Bobbie Burkley for applying for this seat. He said that
she interviewed really well and will make a great addition bringing not only intellect, but
community experience along with her professional background.
Chairwoman Richards called the motion. Motion passed 5 to 0.
AT THIS TIME, OUTGOING CHAIRWOMAN RICHARDS TURNED THE MEETING
OVER TO INCOMING CHAIRMAN MICHAEL M. OWSLEY. THE VICE - CHAIRMAN
FOR 2012 WILL BE JACK HATFIELD.
As his first official act, incoming Chairman Michael M. Owsley presented outgoing
Chairwoman Rachel Richards with a beautiful plaque along with the staffs' and
Commissioners' appreciation.
CONSENT ACTIONS -1 READING, SET FOR PUBLIC HEARING ON JANUARY 25:
FIRST READING ON ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING TRAIL LICENSE AGREEMENT
WITH MEADOWOOD METROPOLITAN DISTRICT — MOTION TO APPROVE ON
FIRST READING AND SET SECOND READING AND PUBLIC HEARING TO
JANUARY 25, 2012
STAFF: BARB D'AUTRECHY, OPEN SPACE AND TRAILS
Gary Tennenbaum, Open Space Trail and Stewardship Manager, was asked to give a
short presentation on this item outlined in Barb D'Autrechy's Agenda Item Summary.
Commissioner Newman thanked the Meadowood Home Owners' Association for
continuing to support and to allow Nordic skiing on that property. It's a great asset and
he thanks them for their continued support.
Commissioner Richards added that Noah Hoffman, now an adult, grew up with the
cross country facilities and training programs that were here through the Aspen Valley
Ski and Snowboard Club. She said that he recently notched his first 1st place win in a
major competition on the East Coast. It does more than create recreation for us, she
added. It's an opportunity to enrich the lives of our young people
Commissioner Hatfield moved to approve the Ordinance Authorizing the Trail
License Agreement with the Meadowood Metropolitan District on first reading and
set second reading and public hearing to January 25, 2012. Commissioner Ittner
seconded the motion. Motion passed 5 to 0.
CONSENT PUBLIC HEARINGS, 2 READINGS:
SECOND READING AND PUBLIC HEARING ON ORDINANCE PROHIBITING THE
CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOL ON UNLICENSED PUBLIC PREMISES FOR THE
DURATION OF THE 2012 WINTER X -GAMES — MOTION TO APPROVE ON
SECOND READING
BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS 4 REGULAR MEETING JANUARY 11, 2012
RON RYAN, DEPUTY SHERIFF; JOHN ELY, COUNTY ATTORNEY
SECOND READING AND PUBLIC HEARING ON ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE
COUNTY TO ENTER INTO A LEASE AGREEMENT WITH THE UNITED STATES OF
AMERICA, ACTING THROUGH THE BUREAU OF LAND MANAGEMENT
DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR (BUREAU OF LAND MANAGEMENT) FOR THE
CROWN MOUNTAIN SITE — MOTION TO APPROVE ON SECOND READING
STAFF: JODI SMITH, FACILITIES MANAGER
SECOND READING AND PUBLIC HEARING ON RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING
PITKIN COUNTY TO ENTER INTO AN INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT WITH
EAGLE COUNTY FOR THE 2012 -2014 SEASON OF SNOW REMOVAL IN THE
FRYING PAN VALLEY — MOTION TO APPROVE ON SECOND READING
STAFF: MELISSA SEVER, PUBLIC WORKS ADMINISTRATOR
SECOND READING AND PUBLIC HEARING ON RESOLUTION ESTABLISHING
THE FORMULA FOR THE DISTRIBUTION OF THE MUNICIPAL SHARE OF
COUNTY SALES TAX REVENUE FOR THE YEAR 2012 AS REQUIRED BY
RESOLUTION 78 -121 — MOTION TO APPROVE ON SECOND READING
STAFF: JOHN REDMOND AND SUSAN ATWOOD, FINANCE DEPARTMENT
SECOND READING AND PUBLIC HEARING ON RESOLUTION PROVIDING
SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATIONS TO THE 2011 BUDGET (August through
November) — MOTION TO APPROVE ON SECOND READING
STAFF: JOHN REDMOND AND SUSAN ATWOOD, FINANCE DEPARTMENT
Chairman Owsley opened the hearing to public comment on these five items.
There being none, he closed the public hearing and brought the matter back to
the board.
As the board had no wish to pull any of these items and had no further questions, the
following motion was made.
Commissioner Richards moved to approve the Consent Public Hearings, second
readings items 5, 6, 7, 8, and 9. Commissioner Ittner seconded the motion.
Motion passed 5 to 0.
LAND USE CONSENT PUBLIC HEARINGS:
CONTINUED FIRST READING AND PUBLIC HEARING ON ORDINANCE
REZONING THE BARTA PARCEL WITH A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT
(PUD) DESIGNATION AS AN OVERLAY TO THE AR -10 ZONING
MOTION TO CONTINUE FIRST READING AND PUBLIC HEARING TO
JANUARY 25, 2012, WITH STAFF AND APPLICANT DIRECTION
STAFF: SUZANNE WOLFF, SENIOR PLANNER
BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS 5 REGULAR MEETING JANUARY 11, 2012
AND
CONTINUED FIRST READING AND PUBLIC HEARING ON RESOLUTION
GRANTING APPROVAL TO THE BARTA PARCEL SUBDIVISION /PUD
CONCEPTUAL SUBMISSION, ACTIVITY ENVELOPE REVIEW, AND
SUBDIVISION EXEMPTION FOR A MAJOR PLAT AMENDMENT TO THE
ROARING FORK MEADOWS SUBDIVISION /PUD — MOTION TO CONTINUE
FIRST READING AND PUBLIC HEARING TO JANUARY 25, 2012, WITH
DIRECTION TO STAFF AND APPLICANT
STAFF: SUZANNE WOLFF, SENIOR PLANNER
AND
CONTINUED ONE READING ON RESOLUTION GRANTING 2010 RURAL
AREA RESIDENTIAL GMQS ALLOTMENTS FOR NEW LOTS /PARCELS —
MOTION TO CONTINUE READING TO JANUARY 25, 2012
STAFF: SUZANNE WOLFF, SENIOR PLANNER
APPLICANT: Roaring Fork Meadows, LLC
APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE: Mitch Haas of Haas Land Planning, LLC
SUMMARY: The applicant is requesting Conceptual
Submission approval to subdivide the Barta Parcel into two lots and to rezone the
parcel with a PUD designation; to amend the Roaring Fork Meadows
Subdivision /PUD (f /k /a Morrow/Wingo Junction Ranch Subdivision /PUD) to
include the two new Tots (as Lots 6 & 7); to establish activity envelopes on the
new Tots; and to obtain growth management exemptions for the fathering parcel
(Lot 6) and the barn square footage.
The Applicant requested a growth management allotment of 8,250 square feet for a
single family residence on a new lot (Lot 7). The Planning Commission scored the
application on November 9, 2010. The application exceeded the threshold to obtain the
requested allotment.
The Planning Commission considered the application on November 9, 2010 and April
19, 2011, and recommended approval by a vote of 4 -0.
The BOCC continued the first reading of the Rezoning Ordinance, the first
reading of the Subdivision /PUD Resolution and the Resolution granting a GMQS
allotment on October 26 to allow the applicant and staff to respond to issues
raised by Jennifer Long at the October 26, 2011 BOCC meeting.
Ms. Wolff gave her presentation by updating the board on this item and refreshing the
property overview by use of a large colored map.
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She then went over all the outstanding issues as shown on pages 2 through 7 of staff's
memorandum showing staff's position on each issue. The titles of said issues are
shown as follows:
➢ LOT AREA/HIGH WATER LINE
Commissioner Hatfield had questions about Jonathan Lowsky's findings regarding the
high water line before May when the high water mark was a month later. He questions
very much the findings of Jonathan Lowsky done before May, because this report is
dated at this time when the high water mark was over a month later. So, he's just not
convinced that the bottom line that we have 70 acres. It's about 2/3 of an acre that
there seems to be some leeway and certainly the applicant can provide the facts here
according to Mr. Lowsky's information. So, for me this is still an outstanding issue and
I'm not in agreement with staff's recommendation. And, though I understand the quality
veg - - excuse me - - aquatic vegetation and drift and, you know, Jonathan's analysis. I
mean you get a good analysis; it's just premature, very much premature for me.
DIRECTION TO APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVES — At this time, Chairman Owsley
asked that Mr. Lowsky be present at the next meeting, or continued meeting, on this
item to discuss his findings in person.
NOTE: Mitch Haas responded that if not at the next meeting, at least by second
reading.
Commissioner Hatfield had taken pictures himself of high water on June 25, 2011 and
submitted them to staff as part of the record.
Copies of his pictures are attached to this packet material as additional exhibits.
Discussion ensued on the high water mark issue with comments given by
Commissioner Ittner and Commissioner Richards.
Ms. Wolff read the County Code's definition of high water which states, in the
case of a creek, stream or river, the water line at the point of change from aquatic
to terrestrial vegetation or the high water line of stream discharge with an
average recurrence interval of 10 years.
DIRECTION TO STAFF AND /OR APPLICANT - Commissioner Richards would like to
know the high water date over the last 10 years on the Roaring Fork. She thinks there
should be some gauging somewhere. And, how often in the past 10 years have we had
that kind of occurrence. The lower area near the river has been altered, she said, with
the previous owner who had wanted to try and create a channel so she doesn't want to
confuse the two. But, she said she thinks we need to look at that and try and get more
data might be appropriate.
NOTE: Commissioner Hatfield added that on page 7 of Jennifer Long's submitted
comments, she talks of data from the Colorado Division of Water Resources web site.
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He thought perhaps data could be obtained from this office /website to reinforce what the
board is thinking or questioning further.
Ms. Wolff stated that staff's position is that what we're looking at is where there's
a change from aquatic vegetation to terrestrial vegetation which would have
occurred, obviously, over a period of time by being saturated with water.
Chairman Owsley said that the issue is whether or not the board accepts the definition
of high water mark.
Ms. Wolff continued her list of issues, with staff's positions shown in her memorandum:
➢ 1982 BARTA FAMILY SUB FURTHER SUBDIVISION
PROHIBITION
The background documents requested by the board previously are attached to staff's
memorandum.
Commissioner Hatfield disclosed that he spoke to County Attorney John Ely just to
clarify what it means when there's a statement about no further subdivision. And,
during the course of the conversation, the end result, of course, is to reinforce what he
already knew. The applicant has the right to apply for an amendment and the board
has the ability to agree or not. That's our discretion. But for him, the original board put
that in the previous approval for a reason and it shouldn't be taken lightly. He would like
the applicant's representative to tell the board what the public benefit is on this
application.
➢ IRRIGATED LANDS FOR FOOD OR CROP PRODUCTION
With the long version in staff's memorandum, Ms. Wolff gave the shorter version. She
said that the applicant is required as part of previous approvals to revegetate the
southern portion of Common Parcel 1. The quote is to preserve the historically irrigated
areas. That was the language in those approvals. That may not be food or crop
production necessarily, but clearly intended to be revegetated and maintained as a
green open space if nothing else. But, staff is not requiring them to grow hay there, but
they are being required to grow something other than weed or dirt which is there now.
FOR CONSIDERATION BY APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVES — Commissioner
Richards asked if this were to go forward in some format, would a smaller house size
than is being proposed create a different level of standards that it needs to meet. For
example, rather than 2 ten -acre Tots, could there be 2 eight -acre lots and then have
homes that could not go to the 5750 standard.
➢ MAJOR PLAT AMENDMENT
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➢ COMMON PARCEL TWO
Staff's recommendations to the board are shown on page 7 of the memorandum.
Mitch Haas of Haas Land Planning LLC and Scott Russell were present on behalf of the
applicant.
Mr. Haas gave his presentation to the board based upon his December 28, 2011
memorandum in staffs packet material where he responds to the list of various issues.
During a high water mark discussion, Mr. Haas said that since this rule has been
adopted in 2006, several properties have gone through review with a high water line
and as far as he can tell, none have had 10 years worth of data to go along with their
high water line mapping and yet the County has consistently accepted the mapping as
done.. He doesn't know that from 2006 to now this precedent suddenly changes now
because one neighbor's convinced that something's different. Or that there's water
gauge the State maintains on this property. There isn't, he said. So we don't have the
data available, the State doesn't have the data available for this property for 10 years.
So, it seems logical to him to follow the same methodology that the County has, time
and time again, accepted since the advent of this regulation.
Regarding public benefits, Mr. Haas said that he has quite a few public benefits in this
proposal. He said that they went through Growth Management. You don't score, he
said, above threshold in Growth Management without public benefit. Without this
proposal, no, the water rights do not have to be tied to this property alone and can be
sold for use elsewhere. Without this approval, they do not have to switch from
inefficient flood irrigation to timed and zoned controlled irrigation to conserve water.
They do not have to return water to the streams the way they said they would. They do
not have to convey the excellent public benefit of improved health and safety to all the
residents of the Hoagland Ranch Subdivision by improving their access for fire and
parking and making it so a fire truck can get to them in case of an emergency.
They do not, he continued, have to convey the benefit of once preserving land that had
been used for agricultural also saying we will put in an agricultural preservation
easement so that it continues to be used and irrigated. Mr. Haas said that there's
nothing in the Code about continuing to irrigate agricultural lands once you preserve it.
You just have to preserve it. It can turn brown and be brown field from then after, but
they have committed to doing more than that.
While addressing irrigated lands for food or crop production, Mr. Haas submitted the
following two map copies. One is an unrecorded map of Conceptual Subdivision, PUD
Plan and Activity Envelope of Lots 6 and 7 of the Roaring Fork Meadows Sub /PUD /.
The second map is an unrecorded copy of historically irrigated acreage exhibit map of
Lots 6 and 7 of the Roaring Fork Meadows Sub /PUD. These exhibits are attached to
the staff packet material.
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Mr. Haas stated that they've decided they don't want to keep squabbling over what they
did and didn't have to do under the old approvals and what is and isn't irrigated. He
used the two submitted maps to show that they are making the envelopes significantly
smaller and returning area to irrigation. He said that they've recalculated and very
conservatively had the surveyor map out areas that were historically irrigated. All
they've excluded is where the house is and that little fenced area around it. They've
excluded that from what's been irrigated and so they're not arguing over this strip
anymore. They've excluded the developed area only, the area of the ditch itself
because the ditch is not irrigated and then the area that everyone has agreed to in this
corner. The result is that they've come up with 8.32 acres of historically irrigated
acreage out of the 10 acres on the Barta Parcel. If you say we have to preserve 95% of
that area that means 7.9 acres of the 10 need to be preserved for agricultural use.
They've shrunken their Activity Envelopes plus Access Envelopes to an area of 2.1
acres total. In other words, 10 minus 2.1 leaves 7.9 outside the Activity Envelopes and
Access Envelopes. They will take all of those 7.9 acres and add them to the
Agricultural Preservation Easement for the entire Roaring Fork Meadows PUD. So, not
only are we taking them and leaving them out of the envelopes, but we're going to make
them part of an Agricultural Preservation Easement which insures they will continue to
be agricultural lands not just preserved land. At the end of the day, he stated, they are
satisfying the 95% requirement on the Barta Parcel, and going above and beyond by
making that acreage, the 7.9, part of an Agricultural Preservation Easement.
Ms. Wolff put the maps on the overhead projector and Mr. Haas further explained and
showed the board and the public his reductions.
Mr. Haas said that to the extent that they are off by a decimal place here or there,
they will fine tune that and make sure it is exactly right, if not exceeding the 95%
before they would come in for a Detailed Final Review. The intention is that we
make sure, he said for the record, that we satisfy, if not exceed, the 95%
requirement.
A question from Commissioner Owsley to Mr. Haas was turned over to Scott Russell.
Commissioner Owsley asked if the applicant would be comfortable with eliminating any
kind of recreational fishing structure on that property totally.
Mr. Russell said that he would have to ask the owner as that has not been brought up.
Mr. Russell said that he has spoken to the owner about the practicality of a shelter if
you're fishing and it's raining. It would be out of the floodplain and out of the setback
and out of sight.
DIRECTION TO APPLICANT — Would they be comfortable with eliminating any kind of
recreational fishing structure on that property totally. Commissioner Owsley would like
specifics on this at a subsequent meeting.
FURTHER DIRECTION TO APPLICATION AND STAFF:
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A Commissioner Newman — he said that 8250 is not compatible with that
neighborhood. Would applicant consider 5750 for that one house?
A Commissioner Hatfield — on the amount of acreage relative to the lot area. He
said that staffs memo says 70.395 and Mr. Haas has represented that it's 70.66.
He would like this clarified.
Chairman Owsley opened the hearing to public comment.
Jennifer Long, a neighbor addressed Mr. Haas' December 28, 2011 memo and her
discussion with Suzanne Wolff on January 3, 2012. It was her most recent take on lot
area, Ag easements and Sub /Plat Amendment business based on the latest information
she's received from Mr. Haas and Ms. Wolff. The remainder of the document points out
her concerns, objections and disputes with various portions of this requested approval.
A copy of her comments and concerns is attached to this meeting packet as a submitted
exhibit.
Joan Mecseri lives in Samuelson Subdivision. She said that she is on the other side of
all these compilation of figures as she is primarily concerned with protecting her well.
She read into the record some information she got from the Internet. She asked the
following questions:
A If someone wanted to put the entire 8250 square foot house above
ground, could they get that change from the Lot 7 or Lot 6?
A Are TDRs still required to increase the square footage there?
➢ She stated that Mr. Haas has a way of throwing out figures that are not
consistent.
Greg Long resides in Samuelson Subdivision. He does engineering work and has
worked in the valley for about 40 years. He said that he believes the water source that
we have here is mainly due to a shelf which is somewhere at 30 feet or so. He said that
it takes 3 -5 years or so of flood irrigation to go and saturate the soil and then it goes
down here where he gets his water from. It's his belief that going with a different type of
watering system which is more efficient, that ground water source will evaporate in 4 or
5 years or so and will become more difficult for us to be able to receive the quantity of
water to support the number of houses they have where he is. He thinks there should
be some more thought put into water preservation, not only here, but the residents that
live downstream.
Chairman Owsley closed the public hearing.
Each Commissioner gave their concerns, their support and their direction to staff and
applicant for next reading:
BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS 11 REGULAR MEETING JANUARY 11, 2012
❖ Commissioner Richards — She would like to continue the first reading and
have the following items clarified and possibly get some items off the table:
• To define /limit the size of the recreational amenity — eliminate
entirely as Chairman Owsley suggested or if it's something
that's defined reasonably then I'm open to looking at it.
• Would support smaller house size on the first Barta approval
which is the existing approval
• Would rather see the PUD process than the Major Plat
Amendment.
• Wants to see total land preservation percentages of the total
newly proposed 76 acres.
• Channels built by previous owner Morrow ought to be filled in —
would like some investigation as to what really should happen
there by staff
• Suzanne Wolff to fully review the numbers and the ultimate
proposal that has just been submitted by Mr. Haas in terms of
how to get to the 95% irrigated acreage.
• She accepts staff's definition for the high water mark
• To the extent that after these calculations are made, about the
95% acreage, if there's further reduction needed in a lot activity
envelope to accomplish this standard, she would strongly
suggest that it come off the new lot which is most impactful as
opposed to the original activity envelope of the Barta Parcel.
❖ Commissioner Hatfield's directions to applicant and staff:
• Exhibit 6 of staff's exhibits is from the DOW and says based on final
application so he's looking into the future. He would like DOW or
Division of Parks and Wildlife comments relative to this. And, in
conjunction with this, get answers about dogs. What is distance from
Parcel 7 to toe of the slope which they have articulated is where the
habitat is.
• Is supportive of reduced square footage.
BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS 12 REGULAR MEETING JANUARY 11, 2012
DIRECTION TO STAFF — NOT RELATIVE TO THIS APPLICATION: Regarding the
high water issue, Commissioner Hatfield would like to have a discussion in the near
future and touch base on this as he said he believes that the Code Standard that we
have put in the 2006 Code is not realistic. Ten years as an average — there's just not a
lot of data there and this application shows us that.
Commissioner Ittner's directions to staff and applicant:
• Regarding the recreational structure (fishing shed) — what is the smallest
acceptable size from the applicant.
• Supports restricting house size to 5750 — get owner's response
• His numbers still don't totally add up with regard to the 95% in terms of envelope
area; what you've excluded from first map has been kind of added back in. He
wants to see how that map adds up and what areas are excluded.
• Regarding the high water mark — Given the fact that we don't
have 10 years of strong data to know exactly what that is, he
sees no other way to do it than what Jonathan Lowsky has
explained (on paper).
Commissioner Owsley's directions to staff and applicant:
✓ He said it appears that we will be continuing the first reading. He said that this
hinges on the decision of the calculation. It hinges on tying down the
methodology for the high water mark calculation. This is why he asked that
Jonathan Lowsky be present at some point for the expert testimony.
✓ It also hinges on the size of the various structures and houses and accessory
structures. These are all important points that need to be clarified.
Scott Russell Questions to Board for Clarification:
• Regarding the fishing shelter — Commissioner Newman had suggested moving it.
Mr. Russell said that they might be able to support that request putting it closer to
the river. He asked if he could get more specific feedback from each
Commissioner.
NOTE: Chairman Owsley responded to Mr. Russell by saying that he's going to
have to ask the owner a number of questions and come back with that feedback.
He is not going to give Mr. Russell five different opinions. Chairman Owsley said
that the trend is small and lower down. The board would also like to have
Jonathan Lowsky weigh in on the location when he appears before the board on
this application.
Commissioner Hatfield moved to continue the first reading and public hearing to
January 25, 2012. Commissioner Richards seconded the motion and noted that
she will not be present at the January 25 meeting.
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READING AND PUBLIC HEARING ON RESOLUTION DESIGNATING THE
HISTORIC NORTH CABIN ON THE FLYING DOG WEST RANCH INC.
PROPERTY TO THE PITKIN COUNTY HISTORICAL REGISTER AND
GRANTING INCENTIVES FOR THE DESIGNATIO; LISTING OTHER
HISTORIC RESOURCES TO THE PITKIN COUNTY HISTORIC INVENTORY;
GRANTING A GMQS EXEMPTION FOR A CHANGE IN USE; AND
APPROVING A MINOR AMENDMENT TO THE SPECIAL REVIEW USE
PERMIT — MOTION TO APPROVE, AS AMENDED AND STIPULATED
STAFF: SUZANNE WOLFF, SENIOR PLANNER
APPLICANT: Flying Dog West Ranch, Inc.
(Richard & Lydia McIntyre)
APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE: Glenn Horn
SUMMARY: The applicant is requesting the following
approvals:
• Designate the "north cabin" to the Historic
Register;
• GMQS Exemption to change the use of two guest
ranch cabins (north and south cabins) to residential use;
• Amend BOCC Resolution No. 101.2005 to
eliminate the approval for two guest ranch cabins; and
• Obtain incentives for the historic designation,
including an additional 2,500 square feet of residential floor area to
expand the residences, and permission to have three principal dwelling
units on one property.
Ms. Wolff's presentation begins with an overview of a large colored map, a
smaller version of which is on page 1 of her staff memorandum. She then went
over the background and existing conditions, and the applicant's request for
designation to the Historic Register and grants of Incentives. She also went over
Suzannah Reid's memorandum dated December 30, 2011 regarding the historic
designation and historic register. Ms. Reid was unable to make today's meeting.
Commissioner Richards has concerns about the board looking at these
incentives because they will go on the Inventory List, but that's a
meaningless list in her mind. There's no protection whatsoever If they
were to be demolished it would really detract from what you have put on
the Register and what you've given incentives for. She asked how the
board could craft this to say that there is an interrelationship between
these buildings, even though one is on the Inventory and one is on the
Register. She said that the Inventory property would not have to re-
develop as per any of the historic guidelines overview.
NOTE: Ms. Wolff added that the Handbook does speak to adding a totally
new structure on a property with an historic resource. It actually does have
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guidelines as to how it is addressed such as is it appropriate or is it
properly acknowledged in historic resources
Further discussion ensued on this issue.
Glenn Horn and Richard McIntyre began their presentation with Mr. Horn's
presentation going first based upon his meeting packet.
Mr. Horn began the presentation based upon his October 28, 2011 packet
material. The reason for the request is so the entire McIntyre family can live in
this family compound. Mr. Horn said they were not prepared to ask for
designation of the main house due to the expense that would be involved to
move the main elements of the main house that are not historic.
Mr. McIntyre asked the board for the following approvals:
➢ He had Suzannah Reid come look at this cabin
over the years. He asked if it would be possible to register it historic and
would it be possible to ever put an addition on this cabin. He said that he
was able to take a lower window, and if he built a breezeway some 30 feet
from the existing log cabin he could put a separate addition onto this log
cabin: same elevation, roof lines, the addition wouldn't be seen from the
highway.
➢ He said that he knows where he wants to see the
square footage go. The wood log cabin is actually 1320 square feet. He
is asking for 1000 square feet added to the cabin as Ms. Reid suggested.
➢ The other 1500 square feet: his daughter wants to
live in the south cabin which is 2400 square feet. She has 1 grandson and
another on the way. She needs a little more room. The main house
doesn't need any more square footage.
NOTE: Mr. McIntyre said that the main house doesn't need any more
square footage. Mr. Horn added that the main house has 3,036
square feet. Mr. McIntyre said that he could restrict the 2500 square
feet to go in the south cabin and the north cabin and thus there
would be no 1500 square feet or 3,000 square feet on an already
existing 3,000 square foot house. He would be more than willing to
do that.
Commissioner Hatfield's asked what happens if the house is sold.
On behalf of the board, Commissioner Richards wanted to acknowledge the
contribution the Mclntyres have made to the rural character and historic
preservation by that AVLT Conservation Easement.
Commissioner Richards said that she wants to make sure that the
relationship of the compound, the headquarters parcel and even the
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elements that are not historically designated will be considered with any re-
development plan or site plan so that they are copasetic.
Mr. McIntyre said that the two other buildings Ms. Reid would like to put on
the Inventory and eventually register are the following: One is a log garage
and the other is a 1940's milk barn that wants to fall down real bad but he's
been told it won't. Ms. Reid wants him to register those two buildings as
they are.
He would like to work with Ms. Reid and take the historic part of the house,
there have been some additions, minor square footage after 1914, and say
if there is every any change to this house it cannot be to the historic core
of the house. He thinks that's great.
•
Commissioner Richards said that it might not be within our Code.
Ms. Wolff said that she thinks his suggestion could be included in the
Covenants.
Glenn Horn said that he's been taking notes and thinks he can move this
along by summarizing what we've heard. Then, he continued, Ms. Wolff
can revise the Resolution for review by the Chairman of the Board. He said
that he's heard today that:
✓ Applicant has agreed that additional square
footage has been proposed. 2500 square feet would be
located in the North Cabin Historic Structure in compliance
with direction from Suzannah Reid and also the handbook. It
would be reviewed by the staff (S. Reid) before any
improvements were made. And, the same would go for the
1500 square foot addition to the south cabin and, although
that's not historic it would be reviewed for its consistency and
compatibility with the other structures in the headquarters
parcel. That should be reflected in the Resolution of Approval
and then memorialized in the Historic Covenant of the North
Cabin and will also address the headquarters parcel in
general.
✓ If there is renovation in the main house, there
will be a clause in the Historic Covenant that will make every
effort to preserve the core of the main house so it's
distinguished from the rest of the main house. And,
consistent and compatible with the other buildings in the
headquarters parcel.
✓ Then, we would have an overall statement in
that Covenant talking about how you need to look at the
headquarters parcel in its entirety when we're making any
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improvements at all to any building so that we don't
compromise the historic nature of the structures in that parcel.
Suzanne Wolff responded to a question from Commissioner Hatfield
regarding what other buildings were going to be put on the Inventory or
Register. She answered that it would be the North Cabin, the log barn and
the milk barn that would go on the Register. The main house would go on
the Inventory. The Covenant will address all of those things and assure
that any re- development or additional development within that
headquarters parcel, which is where any development is limited to, would
have a review pursuant to the handbook to ensure that it is compatible with
those historic resources.
Commissioner Ittner stated that, for the protection of the applicant, he
would be happy to say that those square footages added to the North
Cabin and the South Cabin could vary by 15% or something. He said if Mr.
McIntyre wants 1,050 feet on one instead of 1,000 feet it gives him a little
leeway.
Commissioner Richards made the following wording suggestion: the
Historic core of the main House may not be demolished should there be a
renovation of the house. She said that she thinks the words "may not be
demolished" need to be incorporated.
Commissioner Hatfield added that as Mr. McIntyre just said and
represented, even if that remodel occurs, etc. it wouldn't exceed the 3,036
or whatever the actual figure was.
Chairman Owsley opened the hearing to public comment. There being
none, he closed the public hearing and brought the matter back to the
board for a motion.
Commissioner Richards moved to approve Resolution of the Flying Dog
Ranch West, Incorporated designation to the Historic Register and Historic
Incentives; GMQS Exemption For Change in Use; Special Review
Amendments; and with the Amendments and Stipulations that have
occurred at the table today. Commissioner Newman seconded the motion.
NOTE: Chair will review that document as produced by Community
Development. Motion passed 5 to 0.
BOCC OPEN DISCUSSION:
The board and Mr. Peacock discussed the public comments from Dan Kitchen at
the beginning of today's meeting. He was asking for a ban on fireworks on
private land to avoid stress on wildlife and domestic pets. He also spoke of
possible pollutants from the fireworks themselves and their propellants.
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DIRECTION TO STAFF - Commissioner Hatfield would like some feedback from
the DOW (Department of Wildlife) on consequences to wildlife due to fireworks
as well as their take on pollutants.
Mr. Peacock addressed the Pitkin County Noise Ordinance. He said that we
probably need to look at how we are integrating our Environmental Health
Department into the fireworks permitting process or enforcement events.
He said we can come back and look at this and see if we want to revise it or work
with the Fire District to revise that permitting process.
Chairman Owsley had looked up fireworks online and said that potassium
perchlorate is one of the elements in fireworks which are an oxidizer. It has been
detected in 11 states' drinking supplies including 3 public water supply wells. He
added that nearby firework displays were considered the source of the
contamination. This would include the containers that the fireworks are in and
the propellants used to launch them.
DIRECTION TO STAFF — Chairman Owsley wants a thorough review of this by
staff.
Mr. Peacock and the Commissioners then discussed future meeting schedules
and other items of interest to the board.
ADJOURNMENT:
Commissioner Ittner moved to adjourn the Regular Meeting at 4.25 PM.
Commissioner Newman seconded the motion. Motion passed 5 to 0.
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