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Home My WebLink Aboutbocc.min.spec.09081995 Y�:�- , , � _. � . . .._,�_ �....._....��a._..,..�.. ��........ �:._..._ , ; > _ ,��;-. � �" , `,,�� ,�� , t::: �;i PTTKIN CO�UNTY COMMISSIONERS =° AGENDA .� , '. �3.. = WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 6. 1995 '- ° 1:30 PM S1TE VISIT �'="'��: .s � '��. - Hunter Creek -` I1[>_ ��,r 3:00 PM SPECIAL MEETING . Location: Plaza One Conference Room � >r. � - CONSENT AGENDA �'�' ` Contract with Valle Del Rio Co. Inc, for Pitldn County Jail, Temple Glassier Resolution Requesting up to 90 Day Additional Public Comment Period for Draft EIS ��'� - � for Entrance To Aspen ��:��' FAA Grant Offer,Scott Smith � Contract with Elam Construction for Airport Improvements: Rehabilitation of Ta�way q. "A", Scott Smith �- ! Contract with Basalt Construction for Airport Improvements: Installation of Glycol + ! Containment System, Scott Smith I ADMII�TISTRATIVE PUBLIC HEARINGS � 3rd Reading, Ballot Questions �; � j 1. FM Radio and Television Translator Property Tax . j ' - j 2 Property Tax for County Wildlife Preservation Staff Posirion j ; � � 3. Authorizadon to Tssue Revenue $onds for Resurfacing the F�risting Airport Runway(Does Not Authorize a Tax Increase) 4. Authorization to Issue Revenue Bonds for Widening of the Airport Runway(Does 4 Not Authorize a Taz Increase) 5. Home Rule Charter Amendments i�~ . � 5:00 PM ADJOURN SPECIAL MEETING � � 7:00 PM PUBLIC MEE'TII�iG y C M��T/N G �r . - I Loeation: Redstone Church� 6 k�y ��'� � �� . 'a.--- � Agenda: Coal Basin Planning � � , # 9:00 PM ADJOURN SPLCIAL MEETING j 1 THLJRSDAY. SEP'IBMBER 7. 1995 �' � � , 5:30 PM RFTA TRANSTT DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM SCOPING MEETING I . Locadon: Pitkin County Iabrary ., FRIDAY.SEPTEMBER 8. 1995 ' �:°: ',; •�•� �5:00 SPECIt1L MEBTING t '- �; � � I �� , �.:..:�..:.�.�:.�.:�.a..:��...�.,.�a.��l�:. =�� ..,,. 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CO24II88ION MEMBSRB PREBBNT: Commissioners Mick Ireland, Wayne �"�� ' Ethridge, Bill Tuite, Jim True and Bob Child k=� BUBMZTTING 'PO TSE SLECTORATE AT AN ELECTYON TO BS BELD ON NOVEMSER �: , 7 1995 A LOCAL GOYERNMENT MATTER ARISING IINDER SECTION 20 OF � ARTICI,E S OF TH$ STATS CONSTITIITION OR ARTICLE % OF $TS COIINTY�B HOME RIILB CHARTER (FM RADIO AND TELSVISION TRANSLATOR PROPERTY TA%) jAIITHORIxATION TO ISSIIB REVENUS BONDS FOR WIDENING OF THE AIRPORT � RLINWAYI (DOEB NOT AIITHORIZE A TA$ INCREABE) Tom Oken, Administrative Services Manager, proceeded with his presentation regarding suggested amendments to this proposed - question as disussed at the meeting on September 6th. After a public comment section, Ireland closed the hearing and entertained a motion from the Board to adopt the language in the Resolution with the suggested amendements by staff. � commissioner Child move4 approval ot the Resolutian as amended. , lfith a second by Commissioner 8thridqe, tha motion passed vitII four yea votes bp Commissioners Child, Ethridqe, Tufte and True and oae ,� nay vote by Commisaioner Iraland. ASPEN HICi$I,ANDS HA88 VILLAGE PIID GENERAL BIIBMZSBION. REZONING, 3041 HAZARD REVIEW. CODE AMENDMENTB �#, -�_. ��. 011E�r �r�-�� _ ; ;, ' , ; � ��: BOIlRD OF COIINTY COMMI88IONSRB 1 SEPTF.FIBSR 8� 1995 ' - i '�. t!'rt ...,.,_, .... ��::„-.,.,�.�.�.Y:t ,.�.G;;�ttis��.L+1� �:w� ^r; � y t � r , . . � . " -' _ .i::F�' �C?u�y'��,i.T�`if��'ix-"� Y JL+xi*"x ;., tuZ� 4g . , . . .. sv�v.i._,,.„�e�`��"��?T7 F f�... .. . ,�. �",t'��n� �, ^,.:. Y� , -� _ ry � � � �> . � - s . t' . , �.:r'. . � ! � ' , — _,- -- -- _ ' .` �; . ' . �� ,., _ . tiK.,,- ., i� _---�-----_.��..�.�e,., �C �- �.: . . � . �2 , y,,, .� . . . � - h �.:�'W�R^t -'�x�..�. .�7Yi�3yy�ii_,i+'^ i`.�''��:; .�, �r. -i�- .,. .<9� ..: tikl,kU:'.'��:^ut:_..s;t�tc.+�n._N.N.�......._,_., r u � � l r,�r;�.��. :.:i;: .�;�,. �/�P�4v�en .� �.. -,.R ia-c - �s �Q� :; BOARD OF COUNTY COA'INIISSIONERS �.•.�'��? OF PTTKIN COUNTY,COLORADO '':?`� '' : � MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 8,1995 '�fi�- -`:, 1 '' 'a � .n;.:'_:.�r.�.. � �4: .. !ti` ' Present: Mick Ireland,Chairperson,Bob Child,Jim True and Bill Tuite. � �;' �. ..:_.: _ Gtr►Ian�4w. r1tL{.A.Nb C�4��ao rl.s. YNCCrowa. Te Orocn A.t SSbo�.w. ,.;:s�.,j: A.soert Hp�.hlands Yillage �. �� :�.` Mick Ireland introduced the item for the Commission, � 1 Tim Mallo ex lained that the a licant ro sed various changes to the project which he would like to Y P PP P P� '�� discuss. Staff has been provided a summary of changes. He used a few pages out of Glertn Horn's memo �.� � to remind the Board and members of the public what the changes are. Tim explained he will discuss the ,_,� changes, then briefly discuss the applicanYs proposal with respect to the amendments artd the proposal for _ AH. Tim Malloy believes the AH iegislation has some problems related to the current AH/RO legislation , ` being considered by the City. �:;,a; � Rela6ve to the Thunderbowl neighborhood area,while staff believes there are significant improvements, r they have concerns which still exist in the area of the upper three lots in the Thunderbowl neighborhood. �''} ( Tim explained that the buildmg enveIopes have been shifted down but they aze roughly in the same location as before. The east properiy has been shifted away from the ski area. While sfaff thinks this is a positive t improvement to the plan, he believes a site inspection is�warranted to determine the amount of egress for : skiers before a staff comment is forwazded. Tim explained that there are s611 some very small azeas impacted on 30 percent slog�s. He is less concerned because quite a bit of the area involving 30 percent v� . sIopes has been removed from the proposal. He mentioned that the staff pzoposaI reduced the number of lots by 4 in fhis portion of the project,rather than reducing by only 2. � The Muoon neighborhood has been reduce�to 16 single-family lots. Several lots have been reserved for possible TDR potential. Tim discussed a boundary of blue avaianche zone. Tim explained that Lot i requires access through that blue wne,although the building envelope is pmposed to be located outside of �, the zone. Lot 4 is next to a blue zone. The applicant's drawing stiii inclades Clazk Lane which gces � � """_;— thmugh the upper portion of the property. That azea crosses steep slopes and unstable soils. Staff's proposal suggests that the development be kept lower on the site to avoid steep slopes and unstable soils. � � Tim Malloy discussed the rezoning proposed. Staff supports the change in request for rezoning which has � � greater reduction in lots. � - ' Tim Matloy discussed the Village Core changes proposed. Tim noted that staff has been comfortable with j' . the Viltage Core throughout the process. Tim discussed the music students' use of the dorms in the i summer. He nated that the applicants propose that music students who have no vehicles will be allowed to ;. apply for housing at Highlands. Tim Malloy explained that the project meets the 60:40 popuiation mix necessary. 'I'�is includes the dorm ! �:'-} units. The applicant is ptoposing an oveciay of AH. Tim explained that the AH and ILO zoning which is � being contemplated by the City eslablishes uses and area and bulk requirements. In a recent discussion on f ;� this AH/RO concept at the Joint Planning Commission level, there was discussion for a change in the � d ;: i'r F �� 2 9-y�Q' � ` , ,;_�, .,.. ...,. . .....,:. _., ; .. . , ::.. _:.. ....._._ .. . __ ... . .. . . , . , ,�ti . . _.. , . .... _ - , �, , . —. . . . .. . . . . . � . Y � y ,y,.. � � r ' � . �- . . - � . : � . 4 . � I .... � . ��, �� . � . � . � � . � � � � ... . . . , .. -. . . . . � - . � � � - .. � . .. . .�-� . i I .. , ' ' . . . , � . � . .' I. _ . . . l ' �: .. � ,-- . . ..' .- .-� .. __ .. � . . � .. . � � , � .( ,j�M?µ ' ' , • .�,�• .y,. � '�,�:,. ,T�,.. ..L. _ : .. ._. - . ,, ,. �.� �'... w{��C;�:s��'�k�� .'�i�� '�� ' ��r� , v�:� Board of Count Commissioners -r ��y i Y September 8, 1995 :r�-; : ' � Pitldn County, Colorado page 2 ��j}, _K�'S•`;! •? ��.-`_ .. population mix requirement and, it suggested that in terms of compe6tion,a 7030 population mix should !,; -�;, ibe required. Tim explained that there may be some merit to giving credit to projects that urovide only AH ;;:�..�.� units, and projects that provide a greater amount of Category 1 and 2 units than other types of units. Tim :,��:�`�-- reminded the BOCC that the AH exemptiore is intended ro be granted for a project ihat provides a]arge `'�i�� component of affordable housing. ~'�:�' � ��:. _. f r Tim dces not believe it is fair to do the project as AH and meet the 70:30 unit,60:40 poputafion mix and ,--T also be required to miUgate 100 percent employees generated by the village. Tim indicated he is fairly �,�`�;':".::... : comfortable with the numbers of the project. If the BOCC is sa6sfied with the project, he suggests it be `��;�:=` -- -� sent back to P&Z to review the amendments. g` � ? Several questions were raised about the use of Tourist Accommodation units. At this point in time, staff - i has not crafted conditions of approval on those units. The units are currently proposed to be manageti ��`: Isimilazly to those in eacistence at Tfie Gant. ` ` F Y+� iMick Ireland discussed the square footage to be designatetl as TDR square footage. •• IGlenn Horn explained that BOCC approved restrictions would be established as to how the TA units would '�y,�. be used. They want to assure that TA units will remain TA units. 1". 3im True asked about the breakdown of Category 1, 2, 3 and 4 units. Glenn Horn directed the BOCC to 4� look at a table in which the unit mixes are described as foliows: 29 Category 1,Dorm units; 8 Category 1, one bedroom flats; 8 Category 2, one bedroom flats; 28 Category 3, three bedroom town home units;2 Category 2, two bedroom.flats; and 23 Category 4,four bedroom single family homes. ; Bob Child questioned staff about the AH zone district and if staff feels the Code is being compromised. �;i�''� 1 Staff did not indicate that the code was being compromised. Tim Malloy was also not concerned about 4 others coming in with the same type of requests. Glenn Hom explained that they ue trying to comply with where the Community is going with the AACP and the 60:40 population mix. The applicant was wncerned about going with a straight AH zone because the proposed codified version for the AH zone is quite old. Glenn Horn explained AA said that tradirional zoning doesn't always fit for ski ueas and that you need to take a more flexible approach. Glenn explained that he is concemed about the 6me and effort that it will take to create an AH wne district at the base of + 'a _,� the ski azea. The azea and bulk requirements and use requirements aze already there. The overlay only ; deals with the 70:30, 60:40 mix. I GIenn Hom expiained that if, in fact, tfie AH zone goes in the direcdon where the actual population mix is . 7034 rather than 60:40, some consideration should be made in the ra6os because of the high land intensive a- , ' single-family affordabie housing units being proposed, � Glenn Horn spoke hypothetically about 4 free mazket residences in a project. The code says the calcu]adon }'� to come up with an employee generation figure is as follows: .33 x 4 = 1.32 employees. In the AACP, �� you use a 60:40 rdUo. If you apply 4 free mazket plus 6 units in AH you get 10 people. That is a 60:�0 ;#. # project. What this suggesu is that if you have four people living in a free market component of a project, ' , � } it will generate 6 employees. The response should be that the AACP is not impact based. It is character � _ -`{ based. �- � i. 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' ' �li�4'��.�l�� :�},� . � - ,�:.� ,..:�. �..;<:� - . :�. ..,; , ,, �r :.<..,.., S?��?�'v;��i:�? � . , r�� :� �� Y ��4 it:�. i� .(�T� '�, 17 ti.� � � Board of County Commissioners September 8, I995 �;. �,.'�,.;: Pitkin County, Colotado page 3 .��'`��' � In the Highlands proposal,237 total empIoyees are required to be housed, less the credits for existing uses Y�; ' of 97 employees,giving a total employee demand of 147. Highlands intends to house 245 employees. The ;�� ; applicant is proposing to house 98 employees in excess of that which is required by Code. Glenn Hom - �';.-.r,-y suggests that the character of the AACP concept is covered for the 60:4U mix and the code is covered also. • Glenn Horn explained that he does not believe that doable dip is an issue. � -' _ ( Discussion ensued on the 60:40 and 70:30 population mix and wfien the appIicant became aware of this i being discussed. i.`':w: '- i�:,':: .___'-. ... ._ f�.. . Mick Ireland opened the meering for public comment. �•`��:' ��i:;'�. Bill Ayres explained that he understands that the previous objecdves have been addressed by the applicant. � � He urged the BOCC to move forward with this project to Detailed Submission. w: . A member of the public asked about the employee generation and he suggested that the applicant's proposal � • almost doubles the.33 multiplication factor. Even if the figures are one-half of what they should be this " � project sGll meets the 60:40 needs. He suggested it is rime to move on. � � A member of the public, named Bob,explained that he is concerned about the debate which conlinues on # items which are not part of the code. It is a deflection and waste of energy to debate items that are noY I� ; part of the Code. He urged the BOCC to move on. f Mick Ireland responded that the applicant has asked for changes to be made in the Code and therefore the � public has the right to discuss what is appropriate for the community. � Rick7ones is a neighbor to the project. He stated he represents severai neighbors that are going to be affected by this project. Rick contends that there are dramadc changes being asked for here. Under the code,33 feet is the maximum height. The average height in this project is 40 feet. Whip 7ones'original � project requested a variance of only two percent. The actual rewning request has changed, an overlay AH is being requested,popula6on mix is changed from seasonal to year-round. The Mazoon neighborhood has changed. Total non-exempt squaze footage rather than total square footage has been affected. Density and mass was a huge issue before the compromise was raised. Rick contends that[he reducfion of 2 percent is ; ; not much of a change, thaf conversion is sGll an issue,and that economic jus6fication for the rewning + � request has not been dropped. Rick suggested that the BOCC needs to decide if the Planning Commission ----- should review this project under the old or new code before remanding it back to it for review. He prefers , ' ? the review under the new code. Rick looked at the Castle Creek/Maroon Creek Caucus documentaGon to determine what the"black box" theory was. The documentation was missing. Rick Jones brought up construc6on impacts. He wants the change in use and population mix to be reviewed by the Planning � � Commission. Rick spoke about the Castle/Maroon Creek caucus' request for a moratorium on development j • in the area un61 the intersection of Highway 82 and Maroon/CasUe Creek roads was addressed. I � Klaus Obermeyer asked that the BOCC get going with this project. �� ' t � Charlie Tarver suggested that the housing mix and quality of housing be addressed. � �;., I , !_: � Paul Rasmussen asked for clarification on how the employee generation figures aze calculated. Paul ; � explained that if we prepaze for the worse case scenario for the 3 busy winter months, then we have 7 � months of many unemployed people hanging around. ' �' i � i /36�G 4 �-�-9'�"� :;. .:. _._. _ _��. .: _. . ... <,.:_ „ _ ,, , ....: _. �,�, , � � . - ,. q .-. . . � �. , . � � . . . � rt � . . . . . . . . . � � . , . . .. . _ � . l. �� -__.. - . � I�, . . . . . . . . . ._i: _., , � � - . � • _ .. � . . .. . .. � . 1 .. . . ' _ . � � � . . , . . � � � . . � � � � . . . . .( . . �; . � . . . . . . . . , � �K�x - . . . . ' .. . . •:� �. . '. . . b� _ ,.;.- � __ __.._.. __._._ . �.,,,�;�, �� _ _.. ;°:,.;>�' .�'iv'� ��'`�4. >� �%c': >�� Board of County Commissioners September 8, 1995 ; ,�.-.; i Pitkin County, Colorado Page 4 { ".;: , �,+ti►:" Suzanne Konchan explained that the analysis is based on full-time employees,pro-rated by the months of ' the year. Some discussion ensued. ``� '�� Peter Guy suggested that the BOCC take into consideration that while an employee lives in one location,he ''�.1,: or she may work in several different locations. , ' s. Mick Ireland explained that the employee housing situation is desperate. 'r Mick Ireland explained that at a previous meeting, traffic midgation and pazldng was discussed and the •;"� ---- - - BOCC asked that the applicant wme back with a proposal that works. r':`� ,::!: H explained that you have a base vi(lage, restaurant space,retail space, TA units, residentiaI units and AH �`�` " - � units. Each have specific requirements for parking. He suggested that the ski area needs to be bifurcated i` from the base review. He explained that 292 spaces will be eliminated. Sld area capacity will be � � downgra d e d, ini 6 a l access capaci ty is bei ng d ow n g r a d e d. ; H explained that all single-family homes and townhomes aze taken care of because they have parldng off- ! � street. What is going on in front, is the parking for the uses in the Village. There will be 170 spaces . � there. There will be one space for every TA unit. People in TA units have a teadency to use public transit � more often and the van shutfles will also be used. The transit demand management measures will promote � the idea that the TA occupants will not need cars. 1 I � Tim Malloy commented that he thought the amount of parking for the AH units is low. The applicant + • concurs with this noting that only one space per unit was proposed. H suggests fhat 1.5 spaces are needed ' and there will be 69 spaces in the village parking area designated for AH. He explained that there aze 38 spaces left over for the retail and restaurant uses. The Code requires,for non-residential or commercial � space,there should be one spot for every 400 s.f. of restaurant or retail space. If this is applied,74 spaces � are needed. The applicant only has 381eft over. H suggests that one space for every 400 s.f. of retail. and restaurant doesn't apply to a project like the Aspen Highlands Viltage. H contends that it wiil be too . difficult to go out and shop or eat unless you are already there. People will be deterred by a pazldng fee and the deterrents for access. s Tim Malloy noted his concems about separating the parldng for the ski uea from the parldng of the base � village. He contends in certain issues,both projects need to be considered jointly. Tim explained that i • while a reducfion in the initiai access capacity indicates a reduction in parking stalls would be acceptable, a- the Master Plan for the mountain indicates a confinual increase in skier visits. He also believes that there _ -- ---=- � �� will be an increase in slders because we will see a better ski mountain. Jim True suggested that increase in transit rather than increase in pazking is what should be discussed. � ; � Mick Ireland explained that no one knows what the entrance to Aspen is going to be, there is doubt about ; : funding and how it would be done,and the general agreement is not to spend money on an intersection that might be bulldozed shortly thereafter. Mick contends that the real solution, or one of the most important, ' � is to bifurcate Mazoon Creek Road from CastIe Creek Road and to create an intercept lot on the"Podolak" property. Mick discussed the 600 spaces proposed for Buttermilk. He suggested Highlands Village ', y„ � applicant assist in the creation of the road,and creating a dead-end Maroon Creek Road at the High School =�,,_;'. and Moore. Mick contends that there should be a transit only through-way and that down valiey iraffic for ! '" the Highiands could be accommodated on the Podolak property. � !� � _ ' � , ; �3oG c. 's �'l� 9' ;... , ------____ _.�..._.� ---._�. . ._��....�.._. ._�_� _. ._� .......�_..____----__..__�___f _.�.��: .... . .i �. �.._..r. ..<�,..-. . . . . . .1`_'_ _ . . `.'�1 . : \}A . /. . .. .. - - . _ . . � � - , � � ;\' . ' ' ' .. .. . . _ ' . ' . � . � fi� . ' ... - � � � � . l: � . � .-"'.. . � •F '1 . �. �. . . . . � . . . . � . � ' - � .. ' . . . • � .. '' � . . � �I . . � . . . . . .'. . .. _ � . - . . . � . � � .. _ i .. . . . . . � . ! � . �: . . ' . . . , , � ' t�f� . � .. � � ' . ' . . s�� ..-- ' ' r:�;^:,;:+;�. _;;�•; ,� �: ;. Boazd of County Commissioners September 8, 1995 `%°, Pitkin County,Colorado Pagc 5 1;�;. :c�. �::,��,� Bob Felsburg explained that Attemative H was primatily focused on shifting the intercept lot to Buttermilk. � '- . -; �i.� �� Mick Ireland suggested that if the applicant were committed to participating in the creation of some spaces ��•,;��'{. at the lot and to participaUng in the road,and it would work for the applicant, because it wouid be a ' • . shorter trip, this might be a way out of the d'zlemma. It would be contingent on the County,if there were a `�;�' �r parldng lot, for the applicant to contribute and participate at some level. Jim True asked what that level of �;.�;�. " `' contribution would be. Mick Ireland was unable to respond as to what the Ievel would be required. ___ � � _ It was noted that$1.3 million has been designated for the improvement to the intersection and roads as ��^r��` mitigation of traffic impacts as a result of both the wmbined efforts of Aspen Highlands and the Moore _ � project. H suggested that in recent discussions the possibility of phasing improvements on a priori6zed . � basis should be considered rather than using all of the money at once. H suggested that the use,phasing � and proposed impmvements be worked out between General and Detailed submission. H explained that �� this appiicant cannot solve all of[he problems in addition to mitigating its impacts, and the applicant's fair share needs to be determined. �� I ' � � ' Mick Ireland suggested that one of the biggest advantages of building spaces at Podolak is that it is at the , ��;"-:. entrance to Aspen and the applicant would benefit from that intercept lot being empty on weekends. He suggested that the applicant might be able to get credit for the overlapping or unused spaces. Mick was `• unable to see less than 250 spaces, somewhere. Mick is unable Co bifurcate the ski area and base village �� . . impacts with respect to parldng. Hans Gramiger suggested the USFS should participate in an intercept lot because they will also need it for the Maroon Lake access, which will,eventually,only be allowed by mass transit. ;'�� Further discussion ensued regazding the financing of an intercept lot and road wnstrucdon. Tim Malloy suggested that the language be modified in the approval by the P&Z to allow the applicant to work in developing solutions. Condition No. 29 is the condiGon relating to this idea. � Mick Ireland believes that using a 1.5 spaces per unit for AH parking is too low. � ' Tim MalIoy doesn't, in general,agree with the applicanYs azgument that the parking for commercial and •�. retail is unrealistic. fIe does not necessarily want to see an answer to this problem on site. ---- - ;, Bob Child discussed bulk, mass and scale. He explained that using gazden level space reduces mass. � Terrain seems to increase the height percepfion if the development goes vertically up the hilt. He believes ` the towers proposed help to create an illusion of a lower mass and that this is beneficial. Design and ! ' strucEure of homes can also assist in reducing mass. Bob explained that these are mass factors which aze , � important to him. He noted that lighting also amplifies mass. Window spacing, use of sky lights,and heat sensitive light fixtures might be able to affect mass. Parking lots that aze lit all night are an issue,and � � noise is a factor. Vehicles that are offensive shoutd be restricted,i.e., the beeping sound of a bacldng up �•� ; construcUon vehicles is obno�cious. If there is an alterna6ve,it should be researched. Noise deflective 4, r surfaces that can ba helped by vegetafion should be wnsidered. Bob contends that a noise control program �;', -°• �` should be part of any big project. Neighbors of the project are worried about the size and noise which ' �''? would result of the project. Bob believes that a reducUon in square footage should be considered. j. � �.' � �jO C G 6 `�-�--y s I � ; � � ;....,. . ... ._. _._._.._..____,_ _.J�_._._ _..:.. . ,__ .._. _ .,._ _ ...� . ... . __w_......�.._. �..�-- ., . ., n� �'h � / . . . . . . . . , . . . �r ' S_, . . . . . . . � . 1" . , . . . ' . . . . . y�� . �� " . � . . . . � \� � � . �� ` � . . . � . . . ., - . . . , � . . . . . . _�;, '. . . � � � . . . . . . . . . . . . . i . .. . . . . � ' ..�. .. , . . . ,\ I ' . � . ... . � � . . . . I . . . . . , � . . �p. . � ' ., . . . . . . . . . . . t . . . . �... _r_ �_. ... _... .. ..S' . . . . � . . �; . � � � � . . ' . - • � _ . , � ' `�.�`� _ .. . .. . . . . . S:�O ' � _ a�f,lf�::W�'e�T'�:�Y��S'�` _�y �19G��.,��e� .�y� _:�.�. t. 'f,i+; ?�' :� Boazd of County Commissioners September 8, 1995 �'.�� Pitkin County, Colorado Page 6 •:��"'��' Mick Ireland explained that as a matter of law, this project must be remanded back to the Planning -�� ` � . Commission. The Planning Commission should be given direcfion as to what to address. Mick proposes , �> 1� that the condi6ons be reviewed in the Planning Commission resoluGon. ;':�y: Jim True asked if this boazd is willing to look at the AH overlay district. Discussion ensued. � s,;•° ; H suggested that the basic concept itself be discussed first. He indicated the applicant would like a reading �_;:_,:. : from the Board. �'"`�: �`:•�: _. The Planning Commission resolution approved 41 single family detached free market units. The applicant �' `; proposes a reduction in that W 28 free market units to include 13 in the Thunderbowl azea and 15 in the ' � Mazoon Bowl area. There is a proposal included in this for three additional lots in the Mazoon Bowl ' Neighborhood be created by TDRs. These lots are as represented on the maps presented by the applicant at .,� " the meeGng. Bill Tuite moved approved. Seconded by Jim True. 77 . Discussion ensued. �� •:i , i Bob Child feeis,especially in the Thunderbowl Neighborhood, that the lots go to high and too far out. Bob �. Iwouid prefer to see nothing in this area and have it go through a GMQS process. I-Iowever,he noted dces 1 I not have a problem with all of the lots and some of them might be acceptable. Bill Tuite reminded the •' applicant that two meetings ago they noted that they wanted to see the lots lowered and the building envelopes lower. It was noted that the locations for buildings on the upper lots are at the lower portion of ,� - each lot. Mick Ireland believes that the applicant has made an effort to reduce the impacts. He suggested � that the upper three lots be created only by TDR. He would also accept moving those three lots to Maroon neighborhood or changing them to the base village azea. ��'��+: i�__" Gideon Kaufman reminded the BOCC that the project has been significanfly reduced in terms of the free- '; market component, without reducing the benefits for the community. . I ' ; Tim Malloy suggested the applicant take the three lots and place them in the azea where the three TDR lots q., i aze in the 7erome area. � Bill Tuite asked for an explanation on screening on the lots in question. Tim Malloy described the planGngs proposed azound the lots. It was noted that the Thunderbowl sld run will be revegetated with a �r significant amount to be introduced above the lots in question. The applicant further proposed plantings. � -{, ` Tim noted that he is much more comfortable with the vegetation discussed in the Mazoon neighborhood. � H explained that there are several neighbors that will be able to see the upper lots from the Highlands y' Subdivision. However, there are only a couple of places that the lots will be seen elsewhere. There is , - going to be somewhat of a conGnuaGon of the development of the lots in the Moore project to this project � � � Mick Treland stated that there aze TDRs, there will be more and it is not hypothetical. Debate ensued. '�: ; Mick suggested a County TDR fund. k( .- j �;. i Glenn Horn explained that there aze TDR's and there aze PDR's(Purchase of Development Rights). He � suggested that TDRs might be acquired at a reasonable price,and if they aze unable to purchase them at a ' �-- � reasonable price, maybe the County would want to contribute through the open space funds or something of j ' that sort. ;, I } � � � . � 13oC` 7 y=�-9� c� ; � . � , .�� .�..�.._ > 4 t�.u:_ : ,._:�.., _. .._.. �v.. ---__ _--._----- t5z,� F � ..... .-_......r'. .. .... ...,.. .._ -,_ . ' . .. � � 5.. � . . / . ' . . . . . � . . ' . • t�:� . . . . � . � . . . . \ . �� _ . . , �. � . .,.. . '�• t : ��. , ' ' . . .. . . . .. . . . • �.;.. . .. • ! . .. � . •. . . . . ', . - � . .. . , , . \ �� ' . � . . � . .. . .. . � ' , . . . .. .. .. � • . . . � . . . . I . ... . " . �:..., . . -. � � . � . �.�. � . � ...�.. �. .... . ._� -'.: . . � . . � .. . . . � �. . . � . . . ' . .. . . ,'��a•CW . "' . I . . . . �iy� � T: �s';,it _ � . � � � �ti. ,�. .� . �- . ...., . . . , ,. ...... . � ... . ' ::6;1'kC�r.:r:,'�.k..�k,is4�]GS.�E"a>.7£c�.'r'�i'Ala�a)'rt+6<I:�i6�7�Gi7.'Yw�1:�}t�' ti�:�'., ,+.i r�'..t�. '� .�..::�k ��p � P � *^ ,;.a Boud of County Commissioners Se tember 8 1995 : ; Pickin County,Colorado Page 7 `;��,'i ;,.. Bill Tuite would rather see money spent on the revegetation and reforestation of the Thunderbowl area. i_�, � ; This is more crucial to Bill than additionat exacdon. i ',�� Mick Ireland thinks that an additional exacGon and revegetation and reforestation should be required. '�;.�i„ Gideon Kaufman explained that in the spirit of moving on, the applicant is wiiling to move the TDR's from the Maroon neighborhood to the upper three lots of Thunderbowl with the other three lots moving to khe }'�: r _ Maroon neighborhood, with a cap of not to exceed$100,000 per tot. Discussion continaed. � The ques6on was called. Jim True and Bill Tuite in favor. Mick Ireland and Bob Child opposed. Mo6on �� fails. � { , Mick explained that the applicant proposes 17 Tourist Accommodation units as previoosly designated i. ' . townhomes and 15 free mazket units. The townhomes wi11 be approximateIy 1700 s.f. and there would be � a poten6al for 17 of the Tourist Accommodations to be converted into free market units through the � � purchase of TDRs. The applicant proposes that change would be allowed by purchasing 1100 s.f. of floor ; N , area. . �, . Bill Tuite moved to approve. Seconded by Jim True. Mick Ireland doesn't[hink this creates enough � TDRs. He thinks 1100 s.f. is too small. Discussion ensued. � _ Mick Ireland overviewed the discussion at today's meeting. He proposes that the BOCC give d'uecfion to ; Planning Commission to consider the foliowing four items, along with the applicant's proposal: 1)using ! the AH overlay instead of conversion as a means of accomplishing this project; 2)that the P&Z consider � the use of TDRs for the 17 Townhomes to convert the TA units to free-market anits;3}that the P&Z � � i consider formularions such as the difference in s.f. or 50 percent of the s.f. involved with the ability to use ��. frac6ons of the unit on other space; 4)that the P&Z reconsider the bulk, mass and scale of the project in � light of the comments made by Bob Child which should be passed along to the P&Z;and 5)that the P&Z � consider the parking and transporta6on situadon,in fight of, the proposal that the two roads be sepaiated and that a parking lot be sought in the Podolak/Golf Course area. This would enable the P&Z to consider � . everything and give input on the major issues. � � I ! i. � Bill Tuite mada such a motion with a second by Jim True. Bil[Tuite clarified that they are also remanding � to P&Z the proposal as it now stands from the applicant, not just limiting it to the BOCC comments. Bill � � --- noted that the TDR concept needs flushing ont by the P&Z and that they look at the ramifications. Bill ' pointed out there has been a lot of good movement on this project. 1 , Mick Ireland suggested that the motion be amended co require that the Planning Commission complete their `• � � review within 45 days. � i „ � Gideon Kaufman asked that only the members wfio participated in the previous reviews participate in ihe ' . , remanded review. Mick Ireland understood the concerns of the applicant,but did not think it was possible j` � to determine who can vote on the Planning Commission on ihis matter. ; Gideon Kaufman asked the AH overla be a code amendment s nsored b tha BOCC. The BOCC intends x` to sponsor this code amendment. Tie explained that the issue of�emning of ihe Mazoon neighborhood and i` �� ihe issue of rewning to AH overlay should be considered for sponsorship by the BOCC also. The BOCC !: ��' � agreed to sponsor these items. `• ;�;., � �3oG� S c��.�s ' ' ,._.___ .____---- ._.._._�_._.._ i, i ��..._.. .�. ._. w.�.,.. -_-___° ---. __.,.__ `:�.� � :y. � . .. . _ - . . . _ . . . . q a � „R � .. ' , .. _ ' _ . . •_... � t� . J `• \ , .. . . . . .. . . . ...��, ."' . - ..�. . . .. " . . . - . . . . . . . .. - . - - . � . " ' - .. . � �4�.i . . : � . . .. ,` .. I . . . � . .� . . . . -� � . . a � � .._�... . .. .. , : . - . . . t . �. . . . '_ . . .. ... ' • . �� : .. . .. . . ' ' . . � . t�`� r - �-�� ?,�'r�• �; " ' • at:c,Yff.:��rb ','° :�a - _ . - ' tic': , �� Board of County Commissioners September 8, 1995 - � � Pitldn County, Colorado p�e 8 `�..�' � Mick Ireland asked that the modon be amended to include the P&Z looking carefully at the pazking i��;� situation for the employee housing. �•`"'� �,, - Tim Malloy assumed that opinions and suggestions would also be accepted with respect to parlring and ` `�'`'- transportadon solutions. The BOCC wncurred. � � 's. r� The modon was amended as requested. -�a= `` r ;� All in favor. �' _ �-;; : Mick Ireland noted that the public hearing will be rescheduled and re-no6ced., � " _ • Respectfully submitted, '� : `� �>�� :: � anet L.Raczak M rcl+.tt/C. �/l��'b�4 Recording/Transcribing Secretary ' , >� -. . . �� `. . : . ` � �- 1 �`,i _ � } � � �!•' I � � ' �+�: �`` T['j• � y� {3 �1 "� �` ' �� ki+ '(� i � (/ ��- �' 9"� �'r � ; , � � \. .. 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