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OPEN SPACE AND TRAILS BOARD
BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
JOINT WORK SESSION
March 13, 2018
Pitkin County Library
120 N. Mill St.,Aspen
OSTB Present:
Graeme Means Howie Mallory Hawk Greenway Tim McFlynn Wayne Ives
Dist. 1 Dist. 2 Dist. 3 Dist. 4 Dist. 5
Chair
Staff Present: Gary Tennenbaum, Dale Will, Lindsey Utter, Jessie Young, Janet Urquhart,
Richard Neiley, Jon Peacock
BOCC Present: Patti Clapper(Chair), Rachel Richards, Steven Childs, Greg Poschman, George
Newman
Consultants Present: Bill Mangle, ERO; Derek Webb and Peter Loris, Loris and Associates
Media Present: Scott Condon, The Aspen Times; GrassRoots TV crew
Patti Clapper called the meeting to order at 12:00 PM.
Patti Clapper acknowledged the meeting was the final one for Open Space and Trails Board
members Hawk Greenway and Tim McFlynn, and thanked them both for their service. McFlynn
noted he and Greenway had been invited to participate in coming board meetings as non-voting
attendees.
Carbondale to Crested Butte Trail Proposed Draft Plan
Patti Clapper explained no public comment would be taken during the (March 13)work session
on the Carbondale to Crested Butte Trail Proposed Draft Plan and said attempts had been made
to hold the meeting in Carbondale. Jon Peacock said the goal of the meeting was not to take
action, but to consider the proposed draft plan and provide input with the goal of creating a draft
plan that will be ready to release for public review and comment after the two boards meet again
jointly on April 10.
Gary Tennenbaum said the proposed draft plan represents the accumulation of board and public
input to date. The plan offers a phased approach to trail development, allowing sections that
involve private property to undergo further review and discussion. Phases of trail construction
would create trail segments that work as stand-alone trails until the entire trail can be developed.
He offered the trail section between Redstone and McClure Pass as an example of a stand-alone
segment.
Tennenbaum reviewed the proposed public process schedule, which allows public comment into
the draft plan, once it is released for public input, through July 27. Patti Clapper urged the
scheduling of joint meetings related to the trail plan when all members of both boards can be
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present, if possible. George Newman requested a work session in August for the two boards to
consider a proposed final plan before a meeting on the final plan is held that includes public
comment. Steve Child asked that presentations to the public on the draft plan include an
opportunity for the audience to ask questions and give feedback as a group. Greg Poschman
agreed. That will occur, Tennenbaum said.
Lindsey Utter summarized each of the action items in Sections Al through A3 of the proposed
draft plan. Board members were invited to offer input. The boards ran out of time for a
discussion on Section A4—Trail Action Items.
Following is a summary of board input on sections where input was provided.
• A1.1 Habitat Enhancement Projects
Steve Child—Don't"go down a rabbit hole"trying to control cheatgrass.
Rachel Richards—Involve Pitkin County Emergency Management in planned burns.
Hawk Greenway—Enlist adjacent private landowners as potential partners.
• A1.4 Bighorn Resiliency
Rachel Richards—What efforts will be taken to understand the effect of domestic sheep
on the bighorn herd?
Howie Mallory—Improving the resiliency of the bighorn herd should go forward
regardless the trail; rebuilding the herd should be the goal. Adjacent landowners should
be included as partners in the effort.
• A1.5 Seasonal Closures
Greg Poschman—What is the cost of maintaining seasonal closures in perpetuity?
Tim McFlynn—What is the efficacy of seasonal closures and what does it cost?
Rachel Richards—Require reporting on the efficacy of closures.
Steve Child—The duration of seasonal closures on some segments could be significant.
Hawk Greenway—Seasonal closures should be science-based.
• A1.7 Best Management Practices for Trail Construction
Graeme Means—Construction of a cantilevered trail in the highway right-of-way has
environmental consequences that should be considered.
• A2.1 Trailheads
Howie Mallory—Be mindful of the impact of parking on neighborhoods.
Rachel Richards—Add a section on parking lot standards; clarify the definition of"social
trail."
Steve Child—Placement of parking is critical to avoid having parking occur in
unanticipated places.
• A2.2 Interpretation
Patti Clapper—Avoid over-signage.
• A2.4 Work with CDOT on increasing paved shoulder widths on Hwy. 133
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Howie Mallory—Can speed limits on the highway be lowered and can there be more
enforcement of speed limits? Building only a singletrack trail above Redstone would
limit road biking. An option that allows road biking should be considered.
George Newman—Additional signage could be more effective in addressing speeds than
requesting a reduction in speed limits.
Tim McFlynn—Open space funds can now be spent on road shoulders. Wider shoulders
should be provided where possible.
Rachel Richards—Work on wider shoulder widths to the extent possible,but balance the
work with the need for wider shoulders on other roads in the county.
• A2.5 Avalanche Campground
Hawk Greenway—The county should notify its congressional representatives each time it
spends its funds on a project that should be funded at the federal level.
Rachel Richards— Seek help from county Road and Bridge on the site work, if possible.
• A3 Maintenance, Management, Enforcement and Outreach
Rachel Richards—Is there an ongoing outreach advertising/marketing budget for the
trail?
• A3.1 Maintenance Staff and Equipment
Greg Poschman—Add information about the equipment replacement schedule.
• A3.4 Enforcement Staff
Patti Clapper— Stationing a ranger in the Crystal Valley would be ideal.
• A3.5 Education Campaign
Rachel Richards—Break out one-time versus annual costs; do this in all relevant sections
of the plan.
Graeme Means asked for a financial analysis that establishes how the county can pay for the trail
project. Howie Mallory agreed, asking how much the county is able to commit to the project
over the long term, including capital and operational costs, and what its limits are. Tim McFlynn
suggested a section of the plan that outlines funding approaches over the next 10 or 20 years.
Discussion by the two boards hasn't yet touched on the actual cost of building the trail, noted
George Newman. It will be a decades-long project, he said.
Gary Tennenbaum said the boards will be provided with a summary of potential costs that also
identifies potential funding sources and partners. He noted trail surface type and width has not
been discussed for the trail north of Redstone. Those are factors that affect cost, he said.
Steve Child suggested the entire trail could be constructed as singletrack at considerably less
expense.
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Rachel Richards called the project a long-range plan and vision. She asked for a breakout of
early expenses, mid-term expenditures and what triggers them, and later-phase costs, including
costs that are not related to actual construction.
Tim McFlynn urged the boards to obtain a cost spreadsheet, to make future decisions based on
cost and good science, and to consider environmental enhancement projects because they benefit
the corridor.
Patti Clapper said the two boards will take up Trail Action Items (Section A4) when they meet
jointly for another work session on April 10.
A video of the meeting is available at
https://pitkincounty.ompnetwork.org/embed/sessions/26260/bocc-work-session-3-13-18
ADJOURN
The OSTB-BOCC joint work session of March 13, 2018 was adjourned at approximately 2:00
p.m.
Approved: Attest:
Wayne v�hair J et Urquhart
Pitkin County Open Space &Trails Board ST Stewardship and Outreach Coordinator
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