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OPEN SPACE AND TRAILS BOARD
REGULAR SESSION
November 7, 2019
Red Brick Conference Room, 110 East Hallam St. Aspen CO, 81611
OSTB Present:
Graeme Means Howie Mallory Amy Barrow Michael Kinsley Wayne Ives
Dist. 1 Dist. 2, Chair Dist. 3 Dist. 4 Dist. 5
Staff Present: Gary Tennenbaum, Kim Arensdorf, Lindsey Utter, Jessie Young, Janet Urquhart,
Liza Mitchell
Others Present: Chuck Downey, Bill Argeros, John Emerick, Kate Hudson, Andre Wille, Seth
Mason, Brendan Langenhuizen
Media Present: Andre Salvail, Aspen Daily News, Lee Pruitt, The Sopris Sun, Elizabeth
Stewart-Severy(conference call), Aspen Journalism
Howie Mallory called the meeting to order at 9:00 a.m.
PUBLIC COMMENT
No public comment
APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES
Wayne Ives moved for the OSTB to approve as amended the 10/17/2019 OSTB regular and
executive session minutes. Michael Kinsley seconded. Motion passed(5-0)
Penny Hot Springs Draft Management Plan
Lindsey Utter discussed the background and public process for the Penny Hot Springs
Management Plan. She explained that the hot springs pools along the west bank of the Crystal
River are located partially on Open Space and Trails property and partially on Colorado
Department of Transportation(CDOT) right of way. The parking pullout along Highway 133 and
the downstream pools are within CDOT's right of way. As part owner, CDOT will participate in
the traffic portion of the Management Plan, she said. Other uses for the area include parking for
climbing, wildlife viewing, fishing and river access.
Utter explained that the existing plan for Penny Hot Springs fell under the "Visitor Use Area"
within the 2008 Filoha Meadows Nature Preserve Management Plan. An action item within the
Plan included"OST will work with CDOT and the Scenic Byway Committee to consider
trailhead signage and potentially a kiosk with natural history and resource information and a
spotting scope. OST will also work to maintain a safe, sustainable trail to the hot springs."
Utter commented on the planning process and public input collected through an online survey.
She noted that the comments received from the survey assisted the Steering Committee in
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identifying what the hot springs users love about the area and what they would like to see
changed. Themes identified for what respondents liked about the area, including enjoyment of
the river, natural setting, no entry fee and less management. Current concerns identified by the
Committee included issues with sanitation and waste,user behavior, traffic safety, usage access
trail, overuse, dogs/dog waste, online promotion and camping. Utter stated that the Steering
Committee created a vision statement for Penny Hot Springs: To protect and preserve the
natural environment and future use of Penny Hot Springs in a safe and environmentally
sustainable manner that is compatible with the location's natural setting and that encourages
respect and stewardship.
Utter described the management action items in relation to addressing concerns raised by the
community, while also preserving the reasons the community love this location. In order for the
County to make any improvements or to enforce rules at Penny Hot Springs, first a recreational
lease agreement with CDOT is needed, she said. Utter stated that OST staff worked with the
Pitkin County Sheriff's Office and Carbondale Fire Department to pull dispatch call data for the
last 10 years. The data shows that most common types of calls were related to people sleeping in
their vehicles, lost property and suspicious behavior. Utter stated that the rules, guidelines,
environmental ethics signage, and outreach education needs to occur to address concerns. The
Steering Committee discussed the inclusion of the following rules: no dogs (due to sanitary
issues), Leave No Trace (pack in/pack out), no glass, no amplified music, and no camping. Utter
noted that educational signage would need to be closer to the springs as to not grab the attention
of highway traffic, while also creating opportunity to connect with the users and encourage
protection and stewardship of the natural environment.
The Committee discussed exit and entry parking, which will help limit the amount of vehicles.
Other elements discussed for the design aspect included creating a singular/defined route to the
river, signage locations, wildlife viewing and pedestrian flow. Utter stated that proposed river
access improvements include building a handrail along the bankside of the access trail for safety,
and bank stabilization to address erosion issues. Staff will work with the Forest Service and
CDOT to evaluating alternative locations for climbing access to the Narrows and Avocado
Gulch, she said.
Utter explained that when potential future acquisition opportunities present themselves, the
County could evaluate for the purpose of addressing concerns related to the Penny Hot Springs
area. She noted that another survey will go back out to the public to receive additional input; the
Plan will then be brought back to the OSTB for the March 3 meeting.
Graeme Means commended staff on the draft plan input, and noted his support for the proposed
"no dogs"regulation. He requested additional language regarding the bank stabilization
improvements and user environmental ethics outreach. Means asked about the security of the
water rights around the hot springs. Utter noted that the County Attorney's office is currently
working on determining water rights in the area. Means asked about alternative locations for
climber parking. Utter stated that alternative parking for Avocado Gulch currently requires
crossing private property to get to the Narrows.
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Wayne Ives stated that the goals of the Management Plan are to promote the natural character of
the area while providing better access. He suggested that for alternative climbing access CDOT
could potentially provide another pullout area. Additionally staff could provide online
information and/or a map describing climber access, he said.
Barrow applauded the potential signage opportunities, noting that signs will provide education
and let people know it is a managed area. She stated that sanitation and waste management
should be at forefront of the plan for area improvements.
Howie Mallory requested that discussion occur now with CDOT to address parking issues before
the Management Plan is put into place. Utter explained that CDOT is taking part with the
Steering Committee and they are currently looking into ways to improve parking.
John Emerick, Crystal River Caucus Chair, applauded the Steering Committee and OST staff s
work on the Management Plan. He noted that three issues brought up by the Caucus included
public safety, sanitary conditions and trash. There is concerned that the present Management
Plan draft does not emphasize these issues, he said.
Kate Hudson, Penny Hot Springs Steering Committee member, Crystal River Caucus member,
and Healthy Rivers and Streams Board, stated that the survey of uses for the hot springs focused
mainly on hot springs users and did not accurately reflect the climbing community. She stated
that HRS is very interested in collaborating with OST in the process of stabilizing the bank and
creating structured steps with a railing for hot springs access. She noted that the County is
limited with what can be done for parking and signage.
Andre Wille stated that parking is currently hard for climbers. He suggested acquiring an access
easement through the private property that connects Avocado Gulch to the parking area. Wille
noted that the suggested improvements within the plan will help the public respect the natural
environment of the Penny Hot Springs area.
Bill Argeros, Crystal River Caucus Vice Chair, thanked OST for addressing issues at the Penny
Hot Springs area. He noted concern for the health and safety of users, as well as the lack of
enforcement and available assistance for emergency issues. Argeros asked the board to consider
Pitkin County purchasing a property just upriver of Penny Hot Springs to solve the current
issues. He stated that the property has 2,000 ft. of river access,parking opportunities,potential
trash receptacles and restrooms,phone access,potential for trail and ADA accessible. Argeros
proposed that the property purchase could also offer employee housing with the existing home,
or provide a partnership with the Forest Service for ranger housing to assist with enforcement
and safety. Means noted that if the property was to be purchased the hot springs water would
need to be repositioned.
Chuck Downey, Redstone resident, commended the proposed renovation of the streambank.
Downey noted that by limiting access through parking now, future overcrowding could be
alleviated.
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Utter stated that the plan will be updated to clarify safe access and natural stabilization of the
river bank. Utter noted that overuse of the area can be somewhat controlled by limiting parking
spots, however current parking and climbing access needs to be addressed as it trespasses on
private property.
Board Action Below
Seth Mason and Brendan Langenhuizen entered at 10:20 a.m.
Andre Salvail, Lee Pruitt, Bill Argeros and Chuck Downey left at 10.•40 a.m.
Crystal River Streambank Stabilization
Gary Tennenbaum stated that due to a high water year the Crystal River streambank has
naturally eroded to the point where the trail is starting to deteriorate and is becoming a hazard.
The erosion will soon affect Helms Ditch, which was piped through an agreement with Cold
Mountain Ranch to allow the trail to be built on top of the ditch. He noted that due to the Crystal
Trail being impacted by the erosion area the OST program will need to fund the project as a
capital improvement.
OST staff has been working with DHM and Lotic Hydrological to generated options for
achieving streambank stabilization in a sustainable manor, Tennenbaum said. He explained the
recommended design options: Alternative A would include full slope stabilization by creating a
fill slope and applying vegetation to prevent erosion, which would cost $1,090,565. Alternative
B is a modified version that significantly reduces costs, but keeps many of the aesthetic
characteristics of Alternative A, with the cost being $586,200. Alternative C keeps the
floodplain deck that is in Alternative A and B,but uses a soil nail retaining wall to protect the
trail in the critical eroded area; this limits restoration but would offer a solid repair. Alternative
D is a soil nail retaining wall all the way to the river's edge for approximately 600 linear feet to
protect the critically eroded areas and replaces the floodplain deck.
Tennenbaum noted that once an option is chosen the County will need to look into additional
funding from Healthy Rivers and Streams along with other funding sources. If approved by the
OSTB today, the recommendation will be provided to the BOCC for the 2020 budget meeting,
Tennenbaum said.
Seth Mason, Lotic Hydrological representative, noted that there are trade-offs involved in
developing designs alternatives around permanency, aesthetics and ecological functions. He
stated that in both Alternatives A and B the critical erosion zone is address. Within the
conceptual design a backfill section will be filled and compacted to provide a base for the fill
slope. The flood plain deck with riprap fill will then be revegetated to prevent erosion, he said.
Mason noted that while Alternative B protects the trail, Alternative A extends further from the
critical zone. Mason stated that removing the mid-channel bar and providing stabilization will
help reroute river to avoid further erosion. He noted that none of the design options would affect
the bridge. Brendan Langenhuizen, Lotic Hydrological representative, stated that with both
Alternatives A and B the riprap liner would extend out further from the slope to prevent erosion.
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He noted that Alternative A provides the longest flood plain deck to restore the slope to address
potential longer-term issues, whereas Alternative B limits the compacted fill to the critical zone
only.
Tennenbaum recommended the OSTB choose Alternative A or B, as both protect the ditch and
the trail. He noted that Alternative B needs significant consideration due to the cost savings and
proficiency in protecting the critical area around the ditch and trail.
Barrow asked about the constructability timing and revegetation schedule. Mason stated that
some time is required to allow for revegetation, and therefore there is always a risk with
flooding. Tennenbaum clarified that by watching the snowpack timing for revegetation can be
monitored. Barrow noted concern that with the project only at 30% design actual construction
cost could be higher than anticipated. Tennenbaum stated that the there is a 20% contingency as
a buffer for any unanticipated costs.
Wayne Ives asked if there an option between Alternatives A and B. Langenhuizen stated that the
variance between Alternatives A and B could be determined by amount of fill and extending the
base area.
Kate Hudson asked the OSTB to consider a partnership with HRS Board, in order to provide
input with design selection to determine what is beneficial for the river and riparian area. She
requested a representative from Lotic Hydrological to come to the HRS meeting on November
21. Tennenbaum agreed to attend and have a representative from Lotic Hydrological. He
recommended the OSTB choose Alternative B with the option to change upon HRS input after
the November 21 meeting.
Board action below
BOARD AND STAFF COMMENTS
The OSTB discussed the 2020 meeting schedule.
Tennenbaum stated that the BOCC approved the final plat for the Highland Bavarian property, in
which OST achieved a conservation easement and trail easement.
Means commented about the Aspen Daily News article "Bringing the world's buried wetlands
back from the dead", which refers to the decline in wetlands worldwide. He pointed out the
importance of OST's efforts to conserve wetland ecosystems.
BOARD ACTION
Penny Hot Springs Draft Management Plan
Wayne Ives recommends the approval of the Penny Hot Springs Draft Management Plan as
amended. Graeme Means seconded. Motion passed(5-0)
Crystal River Streambank Stabilization
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Graeme Means recommended the BOCC to approve the funding Alternative B for the Crystal
River Streambank Stabilization, with the option to change via input from Healthy Rivers and
Streams and potential additional funding. Michael Kinsley seconded. Motion passed (5-0).
EXECUTIVE SESSION
The OSTB entered executive session at 11:40 a.m. in accordance with (CRS 24-6-402(4)(a)),
(CRS 24-6-402 (4)(e)) and (CRS 24-6-402 (4)(b)) for the purpose of acquisitions, negotiations
and attorney consultation. The OSTB adjourned the executive session at 1:40 p.m.
ADJOURN
The OSTB meeting of November 7, 2019 adjourned at 1:40 p.m.
Approved: Attest:
owie Mallory, Chair Kimberly Arensdorf
Pitkin County Open Space &Trails Board Pitkin County Open Space &Trails
Administrative Specialist
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