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MINUTES
PITKIN COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
REGULAR MEETING
OCTOBER 12~ 2005
NOTE: For all staff memorandums and associated documents, including
additional exhibits submitted to the record, refer to the BOCC PACKET FOR
OCTOBER 12, 2005
ADDITIONS/DELETIONS TO AGENDA: Hilary Smith, County Manager, noted
that the Western Adventures application is to be continued to October 26th and
the Smuggler Result application to January 11, 2006. Chairperson Clapper
moved these items to the Land Use Consent Public Hearings portion of the
agenda.
CALL TO ORDER: Chairperson Clapper called the regular meeting of the
Board of County Commissioners to order at 2:00 PM
COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT: Commissioners Dorothea Farris, Mick
Ireland, Jack Hatfield, Michael Owsley and Patti Clapper
COMMISSION MEMBERS ABSENT:
PUBLIC COMMENT: Sydney Smock appeared before the board to express
concerns with respect to Verizon Cell Service and Iow line towers.
COMMISSIONER COMMENTS: Commissioners gave comments on current
local and state issues and sports events.
CONSENT ACTIONS:
MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 28, AND WORK
SESSIONS OF APRIL 12~ MAY 10~ MAY 17, JUNE 14~ JUNE 21~ JULY 12,
AUGUST 2~ AUGUST 9~ SEPTEMBER 6~ SEPTEMBER 13~ SEPTEMBER 20~
AND SEPTEMBER 27~ 2005 - MOTION TO APPROVE - STAFF PERSON:
JEANETTE JONES~ CLERK TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
RESOLUTION APPROVING AN ABATEMENT PETITION FOR REFUND OF
PROPERTY TAXES FOR SCOTT SLOGAN - MOTION TO APPROVE -
STAFF PERSON: CAROL FOOTE, DEPUTY COUNTY TREASURER
BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
1 REGULAR MEETING OCTOBER '12, 2005
CONSENT ACTIONS - FIRST READINGS - SET FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS
ON OCTOBER 26~ 2005
RESOLUTION OPPOSING H.R. 3824~ THE THREATENED AND
ENDANGERED SPECIES RECOVERY ACT OF 2005 - MOTION TO
APPROVE - STAFF PERSON: DEBBIE QUINN~ ASSISTANT COUNTY
MANAGER.
RESOLUTION APPOINTING MEMBERS TO CITIZEN BOARDS - MOTION TO
APPROVE - STAFF PERSON: KAREN SAHR~ ADMINISTRATIVF
SECRETARY
RESOLUTION SUPPORTING THE FORMATION OF AN ASPEN HISTORIC
PARK AND RECREATION DISTRICT - MOTION TO APPROVE - STAFF
PERSON: NAN SUNDEEN~ COMMUNITY RELATIONS DIRECTOR
Commissioner Farris moved approval of the items on this portion of the
agenda. Commissioner Haffield seconded the motion. Motion passed
unanimously.
RESOLUTION APPOINTING JANICE VOS CAUDILL AS PITKIN COUNTY
CLERK AND RECORDER - MOTION TO APPROVE - STAFF PERSON:
DEBBIE QUINN, ASSISTANT COUNTY MANAGER
Commissioner Hatfield moved approval of the Resolution. Commissioner
Farris seconded the motion. Motion passed unanimously.
CONSENT PUBLIC HEARINGS - FIRST READINGS SET FOR SECOND
READINGS ON OCTOBER 267 2005:
FIRST READING - ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE QUITCLAIM OF AN
EASEMENT ALONG THE UPPER SECTION OF RED MOUNTAIN ROAD -
MOTION TO APPROVE ON FIRST READING AND SET FOR SECOND
READING AND PUBLIC HEARING ON OCTOBER 261 2006 - STAFF
PERSON: BUD EYLAR, COUNTY ENGINEER
FIRST READING - RESOLUTION APPROVING AN INTERGOVERNMENTA!
AGREEMENT WITH THE CARBONDALE RURAL AND FIRE PROTECTION
DISTRICT - MOTION TO APPROVE ON FIRST READING AND SET FOR
SECOND READING AND PUBLIC HEARING ON OCTOBER 26~ 2005 -
STAFF PERSON: DEBBIE QUINN, ASSISTANT COUNTY MANAGER
FIRST READING - RESOLUTION APPROVING AGREEMENT WITH CITY OF
ASPEN CONCERNING THE ANIMAL SHELTER - MOTION TO APPROVE ON
BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
2 REGULAR MEETING OCTOBER 12, 2005
FIRST READING AND SET FOR SECOND READING AND PUBLIC HEARING
ON OCTOBER 26~ 2005
Commissioner Farris moved approval of the items on this portion of the
agenda. Commissioner Hatfield seconded the motion. Motion passed
unanimously.
FIRST READING - ORDINANCE APPROVING AN AMENDMENT TO THE
STANDARD OF CONDUCT - MOTION TO APPROVE ON FIRST READING
AND SET FOR SECOND READING AND PUBLIC HEARING ON OCTOBER
26~ 2005
Commissioner Hatfield stated that he will be voting nay on this ordinance. He
said he thinks a standard of conduct is appropriate, as far as the ethics of how
the board interacts and conducts the business of government, however, he is
not in agreement with this amendment to the standard of conduct because what
it says is that we cannot engage in communications with interested parties. He
said he has never talked to an applicant who is in the system in the process. So
he agrees with that part of it, but when it says interested parties it also will
prohibit him from talking to the public on an issue. He said he thinks we've gone
too far here and he is going to respectfully vote against this amendment to the
code. He said he thinks it eliminates interaction with the general public.
Commissioner Farris moved approval of first reading of the Ordinance and
set for second reading and public hearing on October 26, 2005.
Commissioner Ireland seconded the motion. Motion passed with four yea
votes with one nay vote by Commissioner Haffield.
CONSENT PUBLIC HEARINGS - SECOND READINGS:
SECOND READING - ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE BOARD TO ENTER
INTO A LEASE AGREEMENT WITH THE UNITED STATES FOREST
SERVICE FOR THE THOMASVILLE COMMUNICATION SITE - MOTION TO
APPROVE - STAFF PERSON: RENEE HASSLE~ PUBLIC WORKS
SECOND READING - RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING EXECUTION OF UTILITY
COST REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENTS WITH THE TRANSPORTATION
SECURITY ADMINISTRATION - MOTION TO APPROVE - STAFF PERSON:
DAVE ULANE, ASSISTANT AIRPORT DIRECTOR
LAND USE CONTINUATIONS:
SMUGGLER RESULT 1041 HAZARD REVIEW, CONCEPTUAL SUBMISSION,
SPECIAL REVIEW, SCENIC REVIEW GM EXEMPTION AND MODIFICATION
OF COUNTY ROAD CLASSIFICATION - MOTION TO CONTINUE TO
JANUARY 11, 2005 - STAFF PLANNER: SUZANNE WOLFF
BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
3 REGULAR MEETING OCTOBER 12, 2005
RESOLUTION GRANTING APPROVAL FOR THE VAGNEUR WESTERN
ADVENTURES SPECIAL REVIEW FOR SNOWMOBILE OPERATIONS -
MOTION TO CONTINUE TO OCTOBER 26~ 2005 - STAFF PLANNER:
LANCE CLARKE~ ASSISTANT COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR
Commissioner Hatfield moved approval of second readings of the items on
this portion of the agenda and to continue the two land use items as
requested by staff. Commissioner Ireland seconded the motion.
Chairperson Clapper opened the hearing to public comment. There being
no comment, she closed the public hearings and called the question.
Motion passed unanimously.
SECOND READING - ORDINANCE ADOPTING THE STATE HIGHWAY 82
ACCESS CONTROL PLAN - MOTION TO APPROVE - STAFF PERSON:
BUD EYLAR~ COUNTY ENGINEER
Commissioner Ireland moved to continue this matter to November 16, 2005
pending the final plan being finalized. Commissioner Farris seconded the
motion.
Chairperson Clapper opened the hearing to public comment. There being
no comment she closed the public comment portion of the hearing and
called the question. Motion passed unanimously.
LAND USE CONSENT ACTIONS:
SECOND READING - RESOLUTION GRANTING APPROVAL TO AMEND
THE COMPASS MASTER PLAN AND SUBDIVISION EXEMPTION FOR A
MINOR PLAT AMENDMENT AND LOT LINE ADJUSTMENT BETWEEN
COMPASS AND APOGEE ASSOCIATES INC. - MOTION TO APPROVE -
STAFF PLANNER: SUZANNE WOLFF
SECOND READING ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING VACATION OF A PORTION
OF BEAR CREEK LANE IN THE CRYSTAL RIVER PARK SUBDIVISION -
MOTION TO APPROVE - STAFF PLANNER: SUZANNE WOLFF
Applicants: Compass and Apogee Associated Inc.
Applicant's Representative: Jim Curtis
· Applicant's Request: To exchange certain parcels of land in order to
clean up property lines to follow historic fence lines and to retain the
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currently irrigated pasture entirely within the compass property. The
following approvals are required:
· Subdivision Exemption for a Major Plat Amendment and Lot Line
Adjustment to amend property lines to accommodate the following:
o The conveyance of 7.7 acres from COMPASS to Apogee Lot 3
(Tract 7 on the Lot Line Adjustment Plat);
o The conveyance of 3.189 acres from Apogee-Lot 3 and 0.235 acres
from Apogee-Lot 4 to COMPASS (Tract 5 and Tract 6 respectively)
Rezoning of the parcels to be transferred to COMPASS from RS-20 to
PUB, and the parcel to be transferred to Lot 3 from PUB to RS-20
Minor Amendment
CONTINUED FIRST READING - RESOLUTION GRANTING APPROVAL OF
THE GAYLORD 1041 HAZARD REVlEW~ CONCEPTUAL SUBMISSION AND
SUBDIVISION EXEMPTION FOR A MINOR PLAT AMENDMENT - MOTION
TO APPROVE - STAFF PLANNER: SUZANNE WOLFF
SECOND READING - ORDINANCE GRANTING A SUBDIVISION EXEMPTION
FOR A LOT LINE ADJUSTMENT BETWEEN THE CIRCLE R RANCH AND
THE FLYING DOG RANCH AND ACCEPTING THE DEDICATION OF A 60
FOOT ROAD RIGHT-OF-WAY ALONG WOODY CREEK ROAD - MOTION TO
APPROVE-STAFF PLANNER: SUZANNE WOLFF
Applicant: Phillip and Carolyn Gaylord
Applicant's Representative: Sherry Rubin
Applicant's Request: Approval to merge three lots (Lots 41, 42 and 43) and to
designate a building envelope for a single family residence. The applicant also
proposes to vacate the portion of Bear creek Lane that is adjacent to Lots 41-43,
as the road ends at the property and does not serve any other lots.
SECOND READING-ORDINANCEAUTHORIZINGTHECONGER
SUBDIVISION EXEMPTION FOR A MAJOR PLAT AMENDMENT AND
VACATION OF A 30-FOOT PORTION OF AN ACCESS EASEMENT IN THE
CLASEN-PECJAK SUBDIVISION - MOTION TO APPROVE - STAFF
PLANNER:
Applicant: Steven Conger
Applicant's Request: Subdivision Exemption for a Major Plat Amendment and
a Street Vacation to vacate the majority of a 30-foot access easement that
crosses a portion of the property.
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Commissioner Hatfield moved approval of the items on this portion of the
agenda pulling the Morrow/Wingo Junction matter for discussion
purposes. Commissioner Farris seconded the motion.
Chairperson Clapper opened the hearings to public .comment. There being
no comment, she closed the public hearings and called the question.
Motion passed unanimously.
SECOND READING - RESOLUTION APPROVING THE MORROW/WINGO
JUNCTION RANCH SUBDIVISION/PUD DETAILED SUBMISSION AND FINAL
PLAT - MOTION TO APPROVE - STAFF PLANNER: SUZANNE WOLFF
Applicant: Robert T. Morrow
Applicant's Representative: Mitch Haas
Applicant's Request: To subdivide the property into five lots, two common
parcels, 1 tract: five free market single family residential lots; one common
parcel to contain employee housing, agricultural buildings and common uses,
and another common parcel for recreational use; and a tract to be dedicated to
Pitkin County Open space for a limited use trailhead.
Commissioner Hatfield suggested language, which says if needed, the
applicant would have to come up with an access plan from CDOT. Suzanne
Wolff explained that Condition 3(g) requires this prior to recordation of plat.
Commissioner Hatfield moved approval of the Resolution as written.
Commissioner Farris seconded the motion. Chairperson Clapper opened
the hearing to public comment. There being no comment, she closed the
public hearing and called the question. Motion passed unanimously.
SECOND READING - RESOLUTION GRANTING THREE CONSTRAINED
SITE TDR'S FOR THE MORROW SOUTH PARCEL TO ROBERT T. MORROW
FOR USE ON THE MORROWANINGO JUNCTION RANCH SUBDiVISION/PUD
- MOTION TO APPROVE - STAFF PLANNER: SUZANNE WOLFF
Commissioner Hatfield moved approval of the Resolution as written.
Commissioner Farris seconded the motion.
Chairperson Clapper opened the hearing to public comment. There being
no comment, she closed the public hearing and called the question.
Motion passed unanimously.
LAND USE PUBLIC HEARINGS:
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FIRST READING - ORDINANCE REZONING A PORTION OF THE HARVEY
RANCH FROM TS-30/PUD TO RURAL REMOTE - MOTION TO APPROVE ON
FIRST READING AND SET FOR SECOND READING ON DECEMBER 7, 2005
- STAFF PLANNER: SUZANNE WOLFF
FIRST READING - RESOLUTION GRANTING APPROVAL OF THE HARVEY
RANCH SPECIAL REVlEW~ 1041 HAZARD REVlEW~ CONCEPTUAL
SUBMISSION AND GMQS EXEMPTION - MOTION TO APPROVE FIRST
READING AND SET FOR SECOND READING ON DECEMBER 7~ 2005 -
STAFF PLANNER: SUZANNE WOLFF
Applicant: Connie Harvey
Applicant's Representative: Doug Pratt
Applicant's Request: To establish eight residential building envelopes on
separate 35+ acre parcels, which does not legally constitute a subdivision within
the purview of the County's subdivision review authority. Two of the proposed
envelopes contain existing residences, and one of those envelopes contains the
"ranch headquarters." A ninth activity envelope is proposed on a separate 35+
acre pamel to accommodate a potential future youth or family camp. The
development is proposed in the eastern portion of the property, with the
remainder of the property proposed to be rezoned to Rural/Remote in order to
obtain TDR's. The following approvals are requested and required:
· Rezoning of 1,397 acres of the ranch to Rural/Remote;
· 1041 Hazard Review and Conceptual Submission to establish building
envelopes;
· GMQS Exemption and Special Review to establish Parcels 1-8 as TDR
receiver sites, each of which will accommodate up to 5,000 square feet of
floor area;
· GMQS Exemption to replace the existing single family residences with
new residences of up to 5,000 square feet of floor area
Suzanne Wolff submitted correspondence in the record from the following
residents. Copies of these letters are attached to the end of the BOCC packet
for this meeting, under additional exhibits;
Letters from Timothy McFlynn, Thea Harvey, Mariah Harvey, John
McBride, John D. Belkin, The Gorsuch Family, Dottle Fox, Karen Ryman,
Mary Johnston, James and Hensley Peterson, Michael Kinsley, Tim
Snowden, Bill Gruenberg, Ginny Yang, Jeanette Jones, Floyd (last name
unknown, Jack and Belinda Frishman, and Jessie M. Morss
Additionally Ms. Wolff submitted two letters from Connie Harvey, one outlining
her family's goals and a second letter requesting a variance from the County
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road standards for their main access road and two letters from Doug Pratt
providing additional information to their application. Copies of all these
documents are attached to the end of the packet for this meeting, under
additional exhibits.
Ms. Wolff proceeded with her presentation on this application, including an
overview of the issues, as summarized in her memorandum contained in the
BOCC packet for this meeting.
Doug Pratt, representing the applicant, gave an overview of their proposal as
described in their application contained in the BOCC packet for this meeting.
A discussion ensued with respect to the issues as follows:
Access: Commissioner Farris commented that she does not want to lose track of
the fact that what we are talking about here is an estate plan for an 1800 acre
ranch (not a 60-home proposal) where the road has become a major issue. She
said on the other hand, when we are talking about preservation of land, we often
talk about the fact that the roads have impacts that we don't want e.g. wide
roads, roads going everywhere. So here we have a plan that meets the code for
five homes, with this width road that has been providing access to the ranch land
for 40 some years, where a fire truck can really pull off, in most places, onto a
field. She questioned (since the road is sufficient for five homes) if there wasn't
some way to place a condition on the approval that says when the sixth home is
built, a plan has to be in place that indicates how that land is to be protected.
Commissioner Ireland commented that he thinks what the Board needs is a fire
mitigation plan. He suggested that the applicant should work with staff to come
up with a plan, which is approved by the safety experts, prior to second reading
on this application.
Commissioner Owsley said he feels rushed because he really would need a
recommendation from the specialists on the road standards that can be met and
what is adequate. He does not see how the board can work out, in a public
meeting, the technical issues that are related to fire and safety. He noted that
there is a recommendation from the P&Z essentially based on access coming
from Shield O, which we not longer have, so the P&Z recommendation no longer
holds, as far as he can tell. So there is a couple of technical issues that need to
be worked out and he is not confident to work out those technical issues. He
suggested that the applicants and the technicians go over it and come up with
something they both can live with prior to making any decisions on this
application. He clarified that he is willing to go forward on the P&Z's spirit of its
recommendation, but is at a loss to start discussion about he technical issues.
Commissioner Ireland suggested approving the application on first reading
conditioned up a satisfactory fire mitigation plan to build eight units. If such a
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plan is not developed prior to second reading then the application would not be
approved.
Commissioner Hatfield commented that he thinks the issues are not that hard to
deal with if everyone works together. He thinks findings could be made that say
that this can happen under these conditions.
Scott Thompson, Basalt Rural Fire Department Chief, commented that he
commends Mr. Ireland for his comments because their primary concern is the
Harvey family's safety and the safety of the 50 fire fighters that work for him. He
said roadways and water supply are the two issues associated with any new
development. He requested that the board give them more time to work with the
Harveys' and an engineer to come up with a plan for roadway design with pull-
offs, etc.
Michael Harding, Fire Marshal for the Town of Basalt, proceeded with specific
comments associated with the fire department's concerns related to fire
suppression and rescue operations. Copies of his written comments are
contained in the BOCC packet for this meeting. Mr. Harding agreed with Mr.
Thompson that if they have time to work with the applicant and county staff that
they could come up with a engineered roadway access plan, which would insure
that emergency needs would be met.
Commissioner Hatfield said the big issue for him is does the applicant have
enough ponds for a sustainable water supply? He requested that this issue be
addressed in the fire mitigation plan.
Bud Eylar, County Engineer, commented that he is not positive that it will be
possible to get a fourteen foot driveway. He thinks the best anyone can do is
have a narrower road and a couple of turnoffs. He suggested that the
improvements need to be made prior to issuance of the first building permit not
prior to issuance of the sixth building permit.
Chairperson Clapper summarized the issues, which have been outlined by the
fire department as follows:
Development of an engineered roadway access plan, which includes the
road improvements; width of the road; possible turnout sites and the
possibility of some kind of a signal to actually know that someone is
actually on the road
A fire safety plan, which would include a viable water supply, pressurized
hydrants, sufficient ponds and whether or not interior sprinkler systems
should be required.
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Mr. Pratt said they have been talking to the fire district on these issues and they
have committed to having the ponds analyzed by an engineer, provided in their
agreement that there will be dry hydrants, have provided that they will provide
access to dry hydrants, have talked about pull outs above steep grades on
existing roads, have talked about that all of the new driveways will meet Pitkin
County standards, and they have gone through all of these details. He explained
that they have committed to build a 14-foot wide road, which is at odds with the
fire codes recommendation of 16-foot roads. Additionally, he said the other issue
is that according to the fire code, if they don't have 20-foot roads, even
agricultural buildings will need to be sprinklered. He said they are willing to work
with the fire district, but there are some things that they have been struggling
with. It has not been committing to water supplies, committing to dry hydrants,
committing to new road construction that meets county standards, but rather
some things that are conflict between the county code and the fire code.
Chairperson Clapper said that the board will have to make the final decisions, but
it needs to hear them in an engineered, thought out presentation so commission
members know what those specifics are.
Chairperson Clapper opened the hearing to public comment. The following
persons spoke in favor of Ms. Harvey's application and urged the board to
approve her request:
Camilla Auger, Jim Ward, Bruce Gordon, Dale Will, Ginni Toni Kronberg,
Sue Helm, John Katsenberger, Dee Malone, Eric Hansen, a resident of
the Old Snowmass area, (who recommended Connie's proposal for
access from Shield O in Old Snowmass), Beth Fergus and Bill Sterling.
Ginny Yang voiced her support of the Harvey application and read into the
record comments from various members of the Old Snowmass area. A
copy of these comments is attached to the end of the BOCC packet for
this meeting, under additional exhibits.
Dale Will, Open Space and Trails Director, commented that this project is the
highest priority of the Open Space and Trails Board and his department to
achieve this conservation success that is so tantalizing close to them at this
point. He said they have the good fortune of receiving the largest, ever open
space grant award from Great Outdoors Colorado to acquire this property. He
said unfortunately, time is moving along and they have crossed one of GOCO's
deadlines and are in a first extension of time. He urged that everyone move
forward quickly with the technical issues so that they can finalize the grant with
GOCO.
Buildinq Envelope Lot 7: Mark Harvey addressed the issue of wildlife specifically
to Lot 7. He explained that the whole plan was to protect a lot of the land and
give the family a few home sites. He said they spent a lot of time walking the
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land and with regard to Lot 7 they wouldn't have placed them there if they
thought there was an issue with elk calving. He said he has lived on the ranch
his whole life and the calving he has seen is to the southwest and far west of the
area in question. In terms of moving Lot 7, if they were to move it further north
they would be restricted by an existing landslide. In terms of the wildlife issue
associated with dogs, he said in the 40 years that they have had the ranch they
have used dogs to run cattle and they have never had a single wildlife issue. He
said they chose Lot 7 because that lot is not adjacent to a elk calving ground. He
noted that it is used for deer grazing, but to his knowledge it is not adjacent to a
calving area.
A discussion ensued with respect to the location of Lot 7 and whether or not it
should be relocated.
Doug Pratt explained that they had to weigh the geological hazards with the
wildlife issues in placing that particular lot. He further explained that the Division
of Wildlife told him that the area is an elk grazing area not necessarily an elk
calving area.
Connie Harvey explained that the alternative lot was too close to the slide.
Additionally, engineers have told her that they wouldn't be able to put in a septic
system. With respect to keeping dogs on the property she said they would be
willing to keep them kenneled, but at this point in time there is wildlife on the
ranch in spite of the working dogs being there.
Commissioner Hatfield said he would choose the area proposed by the applicant
rather than have the envelope moved into a hazardous area.
Prohibition of Doqs on Parcels 7, 8: Chairperson Clapper said she supports the
exception of ranch dogs and supports kenneling on all the envelopes including
Lots 7 and 8.
Commissioner Farris said she would support this condition.
Commissioner Ireland said he doesn't know how the board could allow
something that is prohibited by the code (dogs prohibited within one quarter mile
of elk calving areas.) Commissioner Hatfield agreed with this comment.
Ann Harvey clarified that the parcels are still part of the ranch and will still be
used for cattle grazing and pasture and ranch dogs will still be used. She
explained that the issue is if cattle are being driven with dogs and get to the
boundary of those parcels, prohibiting dogs would not be practical. She said they
are happy to keep them kenneled when they are not being used and in all the
years they have had the ranch they have been careful and have never had dogs
chasing wildlife and they intend to continue that.
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Commissioner Farris said she is hearing the recommendation from the Division
of Wildlife, but she is also hearing a representation from the applicants who have
lived on the ranch their whole lives that the Lot 7 is not a calving area.
Ms. Wolff said the Division of Wildlife is not going to comment on the prohibition
of dogs because they are not allowed to.
Mr. Pratt said the family is only requesting that they be allowed to retain working
dogs on the ranch and that they would be willing to kennel them when they are
not working. He requested that the condition be drafted accordingly.
Commissioner Ireland questioned if there was a possibility of the conservation
easement not being finalized even if this land use application is approved?
Dale Will said the two conditions for this transaction is that we agree on the terms
of the conservation easement itself, which has been done and secondly, that the
Harveys' are successful in this land use application.
Camp Parcel: Ms. Harvey said they would be willing to withdraw this request if
this would help them get their application approved.
Chairperson Clapper said in looking at the issues of the road she thinks the
board would be creating bigger problems with the whole application if it were to
allow some kind of a camp parcel there. It was agreed that his matter would be
discussed in the context of the TDR discussion.
Transferable Development Rights (TDR's): Dale Will explained that when the
open space staff negotiated their contract with the Harveys they assumed that
there would be 1310 acres zoned rural and remote so they thought that the total
number of TDR's were 26. And in their contract that they have with the Harveys
they will be retaining 11 of those and the balance would be extinguished by the
purchase of the conservation easement. He said now the wrinkle is that the
number of acres that they are proposing to rezone has increased and
consequently they are eligible for more TDR's that what was expected when the
contract was negotiated. So the question is what happens to the extra TDR's?
Staff was directed to continue to negotiate with the Harveys and come up with an
equitable and fair evaluation of how many more TDR's should be granted.
Mr. Pratt said with respect to the down zoning, they would be requesting to
rezone at least 1425 acres to rural and remote, which is an increase over what
their original application was and they will work with Dale Will as to how they will
be able to use those additional TDR's within the context of the contract set up
with his board.
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Vested Property Rights: Chairperson Clapper said she is all for 20 years of
vesting. Commissioner Hatfield said he would second this because that is
consistent with what the board has granted with previous large parcels.
Commissioners Farris and Owsley concurred with a 20-year vesting period.
Chairperson Clapper listed the issues, to be brought back at second reading, as
follows:
· Access issue with the road and the fire safety issues associated with that
· Location of Parcel 7 building envelope
· A condition allowing working dogs only on Lots 7 and 8. No residential
dogs will be allowed on these two parcels.
· 20 year vesting period
· TDR's to be discussed at second reading pending the open space trails
department continuing negotiations with the applicant and the applicant's
willingness to eliminate Lot 9.
Commissioner Farris moved approval of the Ordinance rezoning the
Harvey property and set for second reading on December 7, 2005.
Commissioner Hatfleld seconded the motion. Motion passed
unanimously.
Commissioner Farris moved to continue the Resolution on the Harvey
application to December 7, 2005. Commissioner Hatfield seconded the
motion. Motion passed unanimously.
RESOLUTION DENYING AN EXTENSION OF VESTED REAL PROPERTY
RIGHTS AND APPROVING A 1041 HAZARD REVIEW AMENDMENT FOR
LYLE REEDER AND STANFORD JOHNSON - MOTION TO CONTINUE TO
JANUARY 11, 2005 - STAFF PLANNER SUZANNE WOLFF
Applicant: Lyle Reeder and Stanford Johnson
Applicant's Representative: Lyle Reeder
Applicant's Request: Pursuant to Section 4-140-030, request to extend vested
rights for three years and to amend the approved building envelope to include
slopes, in excess of 30%, as permitted pursuant to Ordinance No. 26-2003.
Suzanne Wolff gave a presentation on this application as summarized in her
memorandum contained in the BOCC packet for this meeting.
Commissioner Clapper moved to continue this application to January 11,
2005 pending the applicant continuing to work on an alternative access
with Tom Lewis, an adjoining neighbor. Commissioner Hatfield seconded
the motion.
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Chairperson Clapper opened the hearing to public comment. There being
no comment, she continued the public hearing to January 11, 2005 and
called the question. Motion passed unanimously.
LAND USE ACTIONS:
SECOND READING - ORDINANCE ADOPTING AN AMENDMENT TO THE
PITKIN COUNTY LAND USE CODE ADDING SECTION 3-330-010~
APPROVAL LIMITATIONS FOR PROPERTIES CURRENTLY iN REVIEW OF
PRIOR DEVELOPMENT ACTIONS - MOTION TO APPROVE - STAFF
PERSON
John Ely, County Attorney, gave a presentation on this item as summarized in
his memorandum contained in the BQCC packet for this meeting.
Commissioner Farris moved approval of second reading of the Ordinance.
Commissioner Hatfield seconded the motion. Chairperson Clapper opened
the hearing to public comment. There being no comment, she closed the
public hearing and called the question. Motion passed unanimously.
ADJOURNMENT: Commissioner Clapper moved to adjourn the meeting at
6:00 PM. Commissioner Farris seconded the motion. Motion passed
unanimously.
BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
14 REGULAR MEETING OCTOBER 12, 2005
Respectfully submitted,
Jeanette Jones
Clerk to the Board of County Commissioners
Patti Kay-Clapper, Chairman
Board of County Commissioners
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BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
15 REGULAR MEETING OCTOBER 12, 2005
MINUTES OF WORK SESSION
Date: October 11, 2005
Meeting Start Time: 1:05 pm
Commissioners present:
[] Patti Clapper
[] Dorothea Farris
[] Jack Hatfield
[] Michael Ireland
[] Michael Owsley
Commissioners not present:
[] Patti Clapper
[] Dorothea Farris
[] Jack Hatfield
[] Michael Ireland
[] Michael Owsley
WORK SESSION ITEM: Memos of Interest
STAFF DIRECTION:
1. Letter from Independence Pass Foundation-informational only
WORK SESSION ITEM: Future Agendas/Agenda Requests/Monthly Calendars
STAFF DIRECTION:
1. Weed Board meeting - Oct. 27th 10am at Public Works.
WORK SESSION ITEM: Open Discussion
STAFF DIRECTION:
1. Commissioner Farris reported on the Legislative Policy meeting.
that CCI request a review of sentencing terms.
Commissioner Ireland has requested
COMMISSIONER IRELAND JOINED THE MEETING AT 1:15 PM.
2. Commissioner Farris reported that CCI discussions on RS2477. She requested a listing of all RS2477
roads in Pitkin County. She stated that CCI included support of real estate transfer tax in their policy
statements. They also included a statement supporting community backed affordable housing, trail and
transit items.
3. Commissioner Farris stated that she has been appointed to a subcommittee of Public Lands for National
Association of Counties.
4. Commissioner Ireland reported on a recent seminar he attending on zoning and the meeting with Mark
Udall regarding beetle kill forests. He also reported on the Northwest Colorado Council of
Goverranents meeting regarding the 1-70 corridor discussion.
5. Brush Creek Rd/Intercept Lot/Owl Creek Rd items - Commissioner Hatfield had questions regarding
Brush Creek Road work with Intrawest. Brian Pettet was present to answer questions. He updated the
Board on the Intercept Lot construction and stated that 1000 parking spaces will be available by
Thanksgiving. He also distributed traffic counts for Owl Creek Road.
6. Cindy Houben and John Ely were present to discuss the land use code timeline. Community
Development staff has completed their review and the Attorney's Office comments are due by October
31st. Staff recommends that hearings be held in January and February 2006. The Board agreed to the
new timeline. Staff was directed to not schedule joint meetings or other extra meetings during these two
months. The Board requested their Board retreat be set for early January.
7. Staff advised the Board that the County's Code Enforcement Officer is working to resolve issues raised
by Mr. Stirling Cooper.
8. Staff advised the Board that the Forest Service is unable to attend the hearing on Howard Vagneur's
operations. The Board specifically requested staff consider continuing this meeting to a date that Forest
Service can be present to discuss such things as their travel mgmt plan for that area.
9. Staff discussed possible River District appointments. The Board requested that John Ely be asked if he
is interested in the appointment.
10. Staff advised the Board that Regional Mountain Housing is planning to approach Garfield County for
participation.
11. Staff advised the Board that the PILH fund balance would be available after general fund budget is
complete.
12. Katrina Update - staff advised the Board that $135,000 was raised for the Fat Tuesday event.
Commissioner Clapper will be traveling to Pearlington, MI with a Carbondale Council member and the
Carbondale Fire Department Chief. The Board requested that Commissioner Clapper provide a report
on the trip.
WORK SESSION ITEM: Health Insurance Discussion, Phylis Mattice
STAFF DIRECTION: Phylis Mattice was present to review the current issues facing our health insurance
renewal for 2006. Discussion followed regarding possible plan revisions. Commissioner Ireland stated a desire
to see a stronger commitment by the County for a wellness program. Discussion ensued. Ms. Mattice reviewed
the other renewal changes including dental, vision, life, and disability insurance. Commissioner Ireland stated
he does not want to see a voluntary program, wants to pursue a employee cost share plan based on salary levels,
wants to look at other providers, protect families and if employees show proof of insurance, they may receive a
financial incentive. The Board concurred.
WORK SESSION ITEM: 2006 Budget Goals and Emerging Issues, Section Leaders
STAFF DIRECTION: Section Leaders were present to answer questions from the Board regarding issues and
trends as related to the 2006 budget. General discussion ensued. The Board requested a summary of exit
interviews. Commissioner Ireland requested to know when the fly-over data would be available to him. He
was also interested in staff looking at the trend of real estate closings with few mortgages. Discussion ensued.
WORK SESSION ITEM: Landfill Operations Update, Chris Hoofnagle, Brian Pettet
STAFF DIRECTION: Brian Pettet gave the Board a brief history of landfill operations and stated that the
County is now in a position to assume the landfill operations from the current contractor. He believes that after
paying off initial capital expense, the landfill will have a surplus of approximately $500,000 per year.
Commissioner Clapper stated she liked the concept. Commissioner Hatfield requested further financial analysis
of the capital acquisitions and replacements. Commissioner Ireland suggested that the City be approached for a
single resource stream. Discussion followed. Commissioner Ireland suggested that an RFP be put out and that
the County department is allowed to bid. Rick Pocius from Summit County gave the Board an overview of the
County's assumption of their county landfill. He stated that they found a lot of flexibility in the management of
the landfill and are not constrained by the terms of the contract. He suggested that the equipment should be
leased rather than purchased due to the heavy wear and tear on the equipment. He also stated that the County is
ultimately responsible for the landfill so this allowed them to control their liability. The first twelve months
saw a $250,000 surplus and they are breaking even in the second twelve months due to leasing of equipment.
Commissioner Farris requested a further scoping of the proposal. Mr. Pettet stated that it is difficult to find
qualified bidders. The Board.asked that staff consider the City's needs for their new recycling program. The
Board concurred and requested further pro forma information prior to a final direction from the Board.
Adjourned at 5:00 pm.
Prepared by:
· ry FleXOr Smith, County Manager~"'
Respectfully submitted:
Silvia Davis, Clerk and Recorder