HomeMy WebLinkAboutbocc.min.reg.02232005 PITI{IN COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
REGULAR MEETING AGENDA
Plaza One Conference Room
WEDNESDAY~ FEBRUARY 23~ 2005
2:00 PM ADDITIONS/DELETIONS TO AGENDA
PUBLIC COMMENT, COMMISSIONER COMMENTS
CONSENT ACTIONS
1. Minutes of 2/8 Work Session and 2/9 Regular Meeting
2. Resolution Approving Basalt Library Board Appointments, Karen Sahr
3. Resolution Supporting Burlingame Affordable Housing, Hilary Smith, Cindy Houben
4. Resolution Approving Community Services Block Grant Five-Year Contract, Susan Berdahl
5. Resolution Repealing Resolution 94-140 to Recognize Trail Development Guidelines by the
American Association of State Highway and Transportation Officials, Dale Will
6.Lynx Resolution
CONSENT ACTIONS- ist Reading~ Set for Public Hearing on March 9:
7. Ordinance Approving Sale of County Property to Wagar, et al., Debbie Quinn
8. Ordinance Approving Acquisition of Cozy Point South for Open Space, Dale Will
9. Ordinance Approving Acquisition of the Goldsmith Property on Avalanche Creek for Open Space,
Dale Will
CONSENT PUBLIC HEARINGS - 2"d Readin~,q
10. Resolution Approving Supplemental Appropriation to the 2004 Budget, Linda Kasden, Tom Jagow,
Hilary Smith
LAND USE CONSENT PUBLIC HEARINGS
1. Code Amendment - Fully Developed Land Subdivisions as TDR Receiver Sites, 1st Reading (PN
1/23/05), E. Louthis
2. Rezoning - Rural Remote, lst Reading, Public Hearing (PN 12/25/05) (cont'd from 1/26/05) (cont'd
to 3/9/05), C. Houben
3.Payson Special Review to exceed 15,000 sq. feet (PN 12/25/06) (cont'd from 2/9/05), E. Louthis
4. Lambda Ltd., & Little Woody Creek LLC Subdivision Conceptual Submission and 1041 Hazard
Review, 1st Reading (PN 1/23/05) (cont'd to 3/9/05), E. Louthis
LAND USE PUBLIC HEARINGS
5.Mountain Queen Special Review (PN 1/23/05), S. Wolff
6. Code Amendment - Caretaker Dwelling Units in Urban Growth Boundaries, 1st Reading (PN
1/23/05), E. Louthis
7. Woody Creek Subdivision/PUD, Rezoning, Road Vacation of Portion of Upper River Road, and
Code Amendment, 1st Reading (PN 12/25/04) (cont'd from 1/26/05), E. Louthis
8. Schlumberger Major Plat Amendment (PN 1/23/05) (cont'd from 1/12/05), E. Louthis
9. Code Amendment Creating Transitional Residential- 1 (TR- 1) and Rezoning Transitional- 1 (TR- 1)
Zone District, 1st Reading, Public Hearing (PN 12/25/04) (cont'd from 1/26/05), C. Houben
LAND USE ACTIONS
10. Siemel Appeal (cont'd from 1/26/05 at request of Applicant), J. Schaffner
11. Timroth Takings Determination, S. Wolff
BOCC OPEN DISCUSSION
,te: There was an executive session convened at 8:50 p.m.
ADJOURN
APPROVED MARCH 09, 2005
MINUTES
PITKIN COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
REGULAR MEETING
FEBRUARY 23, 2005
NOTE: For all staff memorandums and associated documents, including
additional exhibits submitted, refer to the BOCC PACKET FOR FEBRUARY
23, 2005
CALL TO ORDER: Chairperson Clapper called the regular meeting of the Board
of County Commissioners to order at 2:00 PM.
COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT: Commissioners Patti Clapper, Dorothea
Farris, Mick Ireland, Jack Hatfield and Michael Owsley
COMMISSION MEMBERS ABSENT: None
ADDITIONS/DELETIONS TO AGENDA: Debbie Quinn, Assistant County
Manager informed the board that Sloan Schumacher was here and wanted to
add a resolution to the board's consent agenda.
PUBLIC COMMENT:
Sloan Schumacher, Director of the Wilderness Workshop explains why he would
like the board to pass a resolution supporting the inclusion of lynx habitat
protections in the revised White River National Forest Land and Resource
Management Plan and oppose Deputy Undersecretary Tenny's orders to
eliminate those protections.
The board was in agreement to support this request and added the
resolution to their Consent Actions agenda.
Richard Gordon addressed the board with his public comment. He stated that he
had recently filed a personnel complaint with the County regarding his treatment
by a County employee. He would like to find out when the hearing took place
and how does he find out about the proceedings. He said that he did receive a
letter with the board's decision, but he didn't see any public notice regarding the
meeting itself.
BOARDOF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS 1 REGULAR MEETING FEBRUARY 23, 2005
John Ely, County Attorney, responded to Mr. Gordon by saying that there is no
public hearing. There is no right to a personnel hearing for somebody who is not
an employee of the County. The grievance procedure is for the benefit of the
employee only and nobody else. He said that the sum and substance of Mr.
Gordon's complaint was not personnel in nature, but was against a policy that
was directed - -
Mr. Gordon totally disagreed with Mr. Ely's response and believes he still has not
had a proper grievance procedure regarding his complaint against a County
employee. And, he still wants to be heard.
Commissioner Farris wanted the board to be able to look at the letters involved
so that they could then make a decision if one is to be made.
Ms. Quinn added that it would only be fair to give the employees in question the
opportunity to attend a meeting with the board at the same time, if they so
choose.
Chairperson Kay-Clapper gave direction to staff to have Mr. Gibson's letter
and the board decision letter copied to all Commissioners so that they can
review them. Mr. Gordon will be given a call as to the board's decision.
Emzy Veazey, III addressed the board regarding resolutions from the Board of
County Commissioners. He said that he thinks the board needs to be more
selective in their final resolutions and that they should pass only those that have
a much better chance of getting the results that they want.
Chairperson Kay-Clapper informed Mr. Veazey that the board recently had a
discussion on this very issue regarding the benefits of resolutions versus letters
for some of their decisions.
Toni Kroneberg asked that the resolution supporting Burlingame Affordable
Housing be pulled from the Consent Actions for discussion.
Chairperson Kay-Clapper responded by saying that the Burlingame Affordable
Housing resolution was going to be pulled for board discussion as well.
COMMISSIONER COMMENT:
Commissioner Owsley wanted to note Hunter Thompson's passing by reading
something that he wrote recently and that actually inspired Mr. Owsley during the
recent election. "Politics is the art of controlling your environment. That is one of
the key things I learned in these years and I've learned it the hard way. Anybody
who thinks it doesn't matter who's President has never been drafted and sent off
to fight and die in a vicious, stupid war on the other side of the world. Or, been
beaten and gassed by police for trespassing on public property. Or, been
BOARDOF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS 2 REGULAR MEETING FEBRUARY 23, 2005
hounded by the IRS for purely political reasons. Or, locked up in the Cook
County jail with a broken nose and no phone access and twelve perverts wanting
to stomp your ass in the shower. That is when it matters who's your President,
or Governor or Police Chief. That is when you will wish you had voted."
Commissioner Ireland announced that the AHS girls lost in yesterday's state
basketball tournament. He said one of them even played wearing a neck brace,
something he would never recommend. He did congratulate them and their
coach for getting them that far. He also joined in Commissioner Owsley's
expressions of regret at Hunter Thompson's passing.
Chairperson Kay-Clapper also wanted to congratulate the AHS skiing champions
who were Paul Britvar, a junior who won a State Slalom title and Jenny Hearn, a
sophomore winning the GS and the Slalom. She is the first AHS girl alpine-racer
to sweep both races since the 1980s. And, she congratulated the cross-country
team as well. Katie Bird finished 19th.
CONSENT ACTIONS:
MINUTES OF BOCC WORK SESSION MEETING HELD ON FEBRUARY 08,
2005 AND MINUTES OF BOCC REGULAR MEETING HELD ON FEBRUARY
09, 2005 - STAFF PERSON: JEANETTE JONES, CLERK TO THE BOARD
OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS - MOTION TO APPROVE
READING ON RESOLUTION OF THE PITKIN COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY
COMMISSIONERS' REAPPOINTING VALERIE WELCH, APPOINTING
JOSEPH MARTINEZ AND RATIFYING THE EAGLE COUNTY APPOINTMENT
OF MEDELEINE SIMONET TO THE BASALT REGIONAL LIBRARY
BOARDOF TRUSTEES - MOTION TO APPROVE
Commissioner Hatfield asked that instead of things just popping up for approval
at regular meetings, such as these library board appointments, he would like
them brought to a work session so that the board has a chance to review them,
briefly. If the public calls to question him on an item such as this, he would like to
have already reviewed it.
Chairperson Kay-Clapper directed staff to bring these items to work
session in the future.
READING ON RESOLUTION OF THE PITKIN COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY
COMMISSIONERS' SUPPORTING THE BURLINGAME AFFORDABLE
HOUSING PROJECT- PULLED FOR DISCUSSION
READING ON RESOLUTION OF THE PITKIN COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY
COMMISSIONERS' TO APPROVE THE COMMUNITY SERVICE BLOCK
GRANT FIVE-YEAR CONTRACT - STAFF PERSON: SUSAN BERDAHL,
BOARDOF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS 3 REGULAR MEETING FEBRUARY 23, 2005
CONTRACT MANAGER, PITKIN COUNTY HUMAN SERVICES - MOTION TO
APPROVE
READING ON RESOLUTION OF THE PITKIN COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY
COMMISSIONERS' REPEALING RESOLUTION 94-140 REGARDING TRAIL
CONSTRUCTION REFERENCES (TO RECOGNIZE TRAIL DEVELOPMENT
GUIDELINES BY THE AMERICAN ASSOCIATION OF STATE HIGHWAY AND
TRANSPORTATION OFFICIALS) - DALE WILL, OPEN SPACE AND TRAILS
DIRECTOR - MOTION TO APPROVE
READING ON RESOLUTION OF THE PITKIN COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY
COMMISSIONERS' SUPPORTING THE INCLUSION OF LYNX HABITAT
PROTECTIONS IN THE REVISED WHITE RIVER NATIONAL FOREST LAND
AND RESOURCE MANAGEMENT PLAN AND OPPOSING DEPUTY
UNDERSECRETARY TENNY'S ORDERS TO ELIMINATE THOSE
PROTECTIONS - STAFF PERSON: DEBBIE QUINN, ASSISTANT COUNTY
MANAGER; SLOAN SCHUMACHER - DIRECTOR OF WILDERNESS
WORKSHIP - MOTION TO APPROVE
Commissioner Hatfield moved to approve the Consent Actions, with the
exception of the Burlingame resolution that has been pulled for discussion.
Commissioner Owsley seconded the motion. Motion passed unanimously.
PULLED FOR DISCUSSION - RESOLUTION OF THE PITKIN COUNTY
BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS' SUPPORTING THE BURLINGAME
AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT - MOTION TO APPROVE, AS
AMENDED
Commissioner Hatfield requested that two sentences in the resolution be deleted.
The first is Recital number 1, first and second bullets. He is totally comfortable
with the first bullet except for the last sentence that reads The AACP Housing
policies include: "providing 800 to 1300 additional affordable housing units within
the Aspen Community Growth Boundary".
The second bullet reads, The Housing Strategic Plan re-confirmed an existing
shortfall of 995 units.
Commissioner Hatfield said that for him, he wants to make sure that we're
dealing with just the policy of the Urban Growth Boundary and such matters as
opposed to endorsing numbers that some might perceive as political.
Commissioner Farris and Commissioner Ireland were acceptable to these
sentences remaining in the resolution. Their reasons included the fact that in the
recitals the plans are stated as fact and that the BOCC adopted those guidelines
as part of their strategic housing assessments.
BOARDOF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS 4 REGULAR MEETING FEBRUARY 23, 2005
Commissioner Owsley had a concern about page 3 under the second to last
paragraph that reads, Citizen Housing outside of the urban growth boundaries is
only acceptable where the densities are appropriate for the surrounding area,
and where such development is containable. Caretaker or employee dwelling
units may be acceptable uses in a rural environment". He would like to have a
clear policy that we have high density growth within the Urban Growth Boundary.
He said that this seems to allow some "wiggle room" for high density growth
outside the Urban Growth Boundary.
Chairperson Kay-Clapper and Commissioner Farris said that they spent many
hours working on this paragraph just so it wouldn't preclude the board looking at
anything that may come forward in the future.
Commissioner Ireland came up with a compromise. He suggested that staff add
the following wording instead of deleting the two sentences requested by
Commissioner Hatfield. Projects such as Burlingame would not be appropriate
outside the Urban Growth Boundary
Commissioner Ireland made a motion to add the wording "Projects such as
Burlingame would not be appropriate outside the Urban Growth Boundary"
under Citizen Housing page 3, bullet 2. Commissioner Hatfield seconded
the motion. Motion passed unanimously.
Toni Kroneberg addressed the board regarding her opposition to the board's
resolution supporting the Burlingame Affordable Housing project. Her main
opposition was that when this property is annexed from the County to the City, it
does not meet the criteria of the 1965 municipal annexation act. Ms. Kroneberg
submitted three colored photographs of the area to show how it looks now.
She addressed each of the 12 criteria shown on page 1 of the draft resolution
and gave reasons why she felt the board should not support this project.
Commissioner Ireland addressed Ms. Kroneberg's comments, stating that many
of her comments were misstatements, particularly her use of the 1965 municipal
annexation act.
After further discussion by the board, Commissioner Hatfield moved to
approve the resolution supporting the Burlingame Affordable Housing
Project, as amended. Commissioner Ireland seconded the motion. Motion
passed 4 to 1 with Chairperson Kay-Clapper voting nay. (Chairperson Kay-
Clapper's reason for voting nay was that she does support Affordable
Housing and the County's position, but she has concerns with the free
market portion of this project)
CONSENT ACTIONS: (FIRST READINGS - SET FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS ON
MARCH 09, 2005)
BOARDOF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS 5 REGULAR MEETING FEBRUARY 23, 2005
FIRST READING ON ORDINANCE OF THE PITKIN COUNTY BOARD OF
COUNTY COMMISSIONERS' AUTHORIZING THE SALE OF COUNTY
PROPERTY TO WAGAR ET AL - MOTION TO APPROVE ON FIRST
READING AND SET SECOND READING AND PUBLIC HEARING TO MARCH
09, 2005
FIRST READING ON ORDINANCE OF THE PITKIN COUNTY BOARD OF
COUNTY COMMISSIONERS' APPROVING THE ACQUISITION OF 129 ACRE
COZY POINT SOUTH, AND AUTHORIZING THE CHAIR TO EXECUTE THE
NECESSARY DOCUMENTS - STAFF PERSON; DEBBIE QUINN, ASSISTANT
COUNTY MANAGER- PULLED FOR DISCUSSION
FIRST READING ON ORDINANCE OF THE PITKIN COUNTY BOARD OF
COUNTY COMMISSIONERS' APPROVING THE ACQUISITION OF BROKER
LODE MINING CLAIM, AND AUTHORIZING THE CHAIR TO EXECUTE THE
NECESSARY DOCUMENTS (GOLDSMITH) - STAFF PERSON: DALE WILL,
OPEN SPACE AND TRAILS DIRECTOR - MOTION TO APPROVE ON FIRST
READING AND SET SECOND READING AND PUBLIC HEARING TO MARCH
09, 2005
Commissioner Hatfield wanted the Cozy Point South Ordinance pulled for
discussion.
Commissioner Farris moved to approve the Wagar Ordinance and the
Goldsmith (Broker Lode) ordinance. Commissioner Hatfield seconded the
motion.
Chairperson Kay-Clapper reminded Ms. Quinn to notify the EPA about the
change in ownership on the Wagar property as she believes it is in the
Super Fund Site.
Ms. Quinn responded by saying that it will also go on the deed as well.
Chairperson Kay-Clapper called the question. Motion passed unanimously.
Commissioner Farris and Commissioner Hatfield thanked Dale Will, Director of
Open Space for the work he has done.
Commissioner Hatfield added thanks to the owner of the Broker Lode, the voters
and Pitkin County, who actually fund this program for helping to save the habitat
of the Big Horn Sheep.
PULLED FOR DISCUSSION - FIRST READING ON ORDINANCE OF THE
PITKIN COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS' APPROVING THE
ACQUISITION OF 129 ACRE COZY POINT SOUTH, AND AUTHORIZING THE
BOARDOF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS 6 REGULAR MEETING FEBRUARY 23, 2005
CHAIR TO EXECUTE THE NECESSARY DOCUMENTS - STAFF PERSON;
DEBBIE QUINN, ASSISTANT COUNTY MANAGER - MOTION TO APPROVE
ON FIRST READING AND SET SECOND READING AND PUBLIC HEARING
TO MARCH 09, 2005.
Commissioner Hatfield thanked the members of the ACDS LLC and their
manager, Michael Goldberg as this is an important wildlife habitat in our
community as well as the entrance to the Upper Valley both for Snowmass and
Aspen. He said that Snowmass Village ought to be really appreciative of this.
Dale Will included his thanks as well.
Commissioner Hatfield moved to approve the Cozy Point South Ordinance
on first reading and set second reading and public hearing to March 09,
2005. Commissioner Farris seconded the motion. Motion passed
unanimously.
CONSENT PUBLIC HEARINGS (SECOND READINGS):
SECOND READING AND PUBLIC HEARING ON RESOLUTION OF THE
PITKIN COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS' PROVIDING
SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATIONS TO THE 2004 BUDGET - STAFF
PERSONS: LINDA KASDEN AND TOM JAGOW, FINANCE DEPARTMENT-
MOTION TO APPROVE ON SECOND READING
Commissioner Hatfield's questions at first reading have been answered to his
satisfaction.
Commissioner Hatfield moved to approve the supplemental appropriations
resolution on second reading. Commissioner Farris seconded the motion.
Chairperson Kay-Clapper opened the hearing to public comment. There
being none, she closed the public comment and returned to the board to
call the question.
Motion passed unanimously.
LAND USE CONSENT PUBLIC HEARINGS:
Commissioner Hatfield wanted to comment on the Melinda B. Payson special
review. He said that he would like to re-look at the 1,000 foot bonus in future
Code rewrites to see what community goal it meets.
FIRST READING AND PUBLIC HEARING ON ORDINANCE OF THE PITKIN
COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS' REPEALING AND RE-
ENACTING SECTIONS 9-110-030, 9-110-042, AND 9-110-051, INCENTIVE
BOARDOF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS '7 REGULAR MEETING FEBRUARY 23, 2005
FOR DEVELOPMENT UTILIZING TRANSFERABLE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS
(TDRs) - STAFF PERSON: EZRA LOUTHIS, COUNTY PLANNER; KEN AND
BETTY MOORE AND LPV PROPERTIES - APPLICANTS; GLEN HORN -
APPLICANTS' REPRESENTATIVE - MOTION TO APPROVE AT FIRST
READING AND PUBLIC HEARING AND SET SECOND READING TO MARCH
09, 2005
CONTINUED FIRST READING AND PUBLIC HEARING ON ORDINANCE OF
THE PITKIN COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS' REGARDING
REZONING - RURAL REMOTE (CONTINUED FROM JANUARY 26, 2005) -
MOTION TO CONTINUE FIRST READING AND PUBLIC HEARING TO
MARCH 09, 2005
CONTINUED READING AND PUBLIC HEARING ON RESOLUTION OF THE
PITKIN COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS' APPROVING THE
MELINDA B PAYSON 1993 TRUST SPECIAL REVIEW TO EXCEED 15,000
SQUARE FEET OF FLOOR AREA WITHIN THE AFR-10 ZONE DISTRICT
(CONTINUED FROM FEBRUARY 09, 2005)- STAFF PERSON: EZRA
LOUTHIS, COUNTY PLANNER; MELINDA B PAYSON 1993 TRUST-
APPLICANT; JOHN DAVIS - APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE - MOTION
TO APPROVE
FIRST READING AND PUBLIC HEARING ON RESOLUTION OF THE PITKIN
COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS' APPROVING LAMBDA
LTD AND LITTLE WOODY CREEK LLC SUBDIVISION CONCEPTUAL
SUBMISSION AND 1041 HAZARD REVIEW- MOTION TO CONTINUE FIRST
READING AND PUBLIC HEARING TO MARCH 09, 2005
Commissioner Farris moved to approve the Land Use Consent Public
Hearing agenda as submitted. Commissioner Hatfield seconded the
motion.
Chairperson Kay-Clapper opened the hearing to public comment. There
being none, she closed the public comment and came back to the board to
call the question.
Motion passed unanimously.
LAND USE PUBLIC HEARINGS:
READING AND PUBLIC HEARING ON RESOLUTION OF THE PITKIN
COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS' APPROVING THE
MOUNTAIN QUEEN INC. SPECIAL REVIEW FOR AN ACCESSORY
STRUTURE WITH BATHING FACILITIES - STAFF PERSON: SUZANNE
WOLFF, SENIOR COUNTY PLANNER; MOUNTAIN QUEEN, INC. AND LOUIS
BOARDOF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS 8 REGULAR MEETING FEBRUARY 23, 2005
OTTE WILLE/WILLE FAMILY TRUSTS- APPLICANTS; GLEN HORN -
APPLICANTS' REPRESENTATIVE - MOTION TO APPROVE, AS AMENDED
Suzanne Wolff made her presentation to the boards outlined in her
memorandum.
Glenn Horn said that this property has been completely redeveloped. He
mentioned that there was a garage and an illegal kitchen. He said that there is a
deed restricted affordable housing unit on this property over by the road. He said
that there is a proposal to raise and rebuild that affordable housing. The board
should see that sometime in the future. He anticipates it will be the last land use
action on this property.
Commissioner Ireland commented on the existing residence. He asked why
there is not a covenant against further subdivision or separate sale of the
property, which he feels is appropriate?
Mr. Horn said that there is a covenant in the draft approved by the County for the
other property that the unit can't be sold separately.
Commissioner Ireland does not see a reference to that covenant.
Mr. Horn has no objection adding that to the approval.
Assistant Community Development Director, Lance Clarke said that staff has a
model deed restriction that they have been using.
Commissioner Ireland asked that they reference it so that no one loses track of it
in the future.
Commissioner Ireland moved to amend the resolution to provide a
reference to a covenant to be filed with the Clerk and Recorder restricting
the property from separate sale of any buildings or from subdivision (It was
agreed that this would be shown in condition number 3 as item D).
Commissioner Hatfield seconded the motion. Motion to amend passed
unanimously.
Chairperson Kay-Clapper opened the hearing to public comment. There
being none, she closed the public comment and brought the item back to
the board.
Commissioner Farris moved to approve the resolution, as amended.
Commissioner Ireland seconded the motion. Motion passed unanimously.
FIRST READING AND PUBLIC HEARING ON ORDINANCE OF THE PITKIN
COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS' REPEALING AND RE-
BOARDOF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS 9 REGULAR MEETING FEBRUARY 23, 2005
ENACTING SECTION 3-150-130, CARETAKER DWELLING UNITS- STAFF
PERSON: EZRA LOUTHIS, COUNTY PLANNER; MICHAEL LIPKIN AND
JODY GURALNICK - APPLICANTS - MOTION TO APPROVE ON FIRST
READING AND SET SECOND READING TO MARCH 09, 2005
Ezra Louthis started his presentation as shown in his memorandum. Mr. Louthis
pointed out that staff feels it is appropriate to consider the Code Amendment for
the entire Urban Growth Boundary and not just the R-15 zone district, as
suggested by the applicant.
Mr. Lipkin had nothing to add.
Commissioner Hatfield said that he is not opposed to extra square footage, but
he feels that the board is being incrementalized with numerous amendments and
looks at different things. He has concerns about the board's overall policy about
how they are dealing with Caretaker Dwelling Units. He said that he would like to
have either RO (resident occupied) and a family can be resident or staff's
suggestion of the use of TDRs to make them work.
Commissioner Farris asked staff if they could start asking the applicants for the
intent of the CDU use, not a commitment, just asking for the intent.
Mr. Lipkin explained that his wife is an artist and the existing barn on their
property that they wanted to use is in really terrible shape. In rebuilding the
studio they thought it would be nice to look into a CDU and help contribute some
life to their neighborhood which is mostly dominated by houses that don't have
anyone living there. He said that it is their intention to rent it out, probably to a
close friend of theirs who has children as they do.
Chairperson Kay-Clapper opened the hearing to public comment.
Glen Horn commented that the income he saved from the teachers, nurses and
ski technicians he rented to over the years in his CDU will help to send his son to
college.
Chairperson Kay-Clapper closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Farris moved to approve the Ordinance repealing and re-
enacting Section 3-150-130, caretaker dwelling units on first reading and
public hearing and set second reading to March 09, 2005. Chairperson
Kay-Clapper seconded the motion. Motion passed 4 to I with
Commissioner Ireland voting nay.
The board took a 15 minute break before starting with the Woody Creek
application.
BOARDOF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS 10 REGULAR MEETING FEBRUARY 23, 2005
Chairperson Kay-Clapper wanted to make a quick public comment she didn't get
a chance to make earlier. She wished an 80th Happy Birthday to her mother who
lives in California. HAPPY BIRTHDAY, MOM!
CONTINUED FIRST READING AND PUBLIC HEARING ON RESOLUTION OF
THE PITKIN COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS' GRANTING
DETAILED SUBMISSION, FINAL PLAT AND GMQS EXEMPTION APPROVAL
FOR THE WOODY CREEK MOBILE HOME PARK SUBDIVISION
(CONTINUED FROM JANUARY 26, 2005) - STAFF PERSON: EZRA
LOUTHIS, COUNTY PLANNER; ASPEN/PITKIN COUNTY HOUSING
AUTHORITY - APPLICANT; GLEN HORN - APPLICANT'S
REPRESENTATIVE; WOODY CREEK MOBILE HOME PARK HOMEOWNERS
ASSOCIATION REPRESENTATIVE - TIM WHITSITT - MOTION TO
APPROVE AT FIRST READING, WITH DIRECTION TO STAFF, AND SET
SECOND READING TO MARCH 09, 2005
AND
CONTINUED FIRST READING AND PUBLIC HEARING ON ORDINANCE OF
THE PITKIN COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS' REPEALING
AND RE-ENACTING SECTION 3-270-030, PRE-EXISTING MOBILE HOMES
AND MOBILE HOME PARKS (CONTINUED FROM JANUARY 26, 2005) -
MOTION TO APPROVE AT FIRST READING AND SET SECOND READING
TO MARCH 09, 2005
AND
CONTINUED FIRST READING AND PUBLIC HEARING ON ORDINANCE OF
THE PITKIN COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS' GRANTING A
REZONING FROM SPECIAL RESIDENTIAL (SR) TO MOBILE HOME
PARK/PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT (MHP/PUD) FOR THE WOODY
CREEK MOBILE HOME PARK - MOTION TO APPROVE AT FIRST READING
AND SET SECOND READING TO MARCH 09, 2005
Ezra Louthis proceeded with his presentation as outlined in his memorandum to
the board.
Mr. Louthis said that the detailed plan is essentially the same as conceptual with
the following exceptions. The original request was for Resident Occupied. The
applicant is now requesting that the classification be Category 4 for the deed
restriction. Secondly, during the original request five (5) of the existing pads
were to be eliminated and the eleven (1 '1 ) new lots would be created in the
southern portion. Now, the request for safety reasons would eliminate ten (10)
pads and create more lots in another portion.
BOARDOF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS 11 REGULAR MEETING FEBRUARY 23, 2005
Mr. Louthis stated the issues facing this application. One, at the request of the
County Engineer has staff recommending denial of the road vacation and
requesting, instead, an encroachment into the right-of-way for a portion of the
road that exists in the Upper River Road right-of-way. Also, a new water system
is being proposed on the Elam parcel to the east of Upper River Road. As part of
that, there will be State approval required. Currently, they don't have engineering
reports and such that the State will accept that and go ahead and review that
approval. This may take up to 45 days for the State to approve a community
water system like this.
Another issue is floor area, he continued. The applicant has requested a 3600
square foot maximum per lot. Staff feels this is far too large being that some of
the lots in this subdivision are about 2400 square feet. Staff has recommended
that the floor area ratio be similar to Aspen Village and Lazy Glen. This would
allow the maximum house size to fall in line with what the deed restriction for a
Category 4 cost would be which is around $300,000.00 for the sale of a lot. The
average size of a lot if you were to do the .56 floor area ratio staff suggested, the
numbers would come together. For example, he said, a 2,000 square foot house
at the average cost of 150 square feet would be about $300,000.00.
There is also a slope issue as the applicant has requested crossing slopes in
excess of 45% for the main water line coming from the Elam site. There are also
a couple of sections that are steep due to the road cut. Applicant has requested
that it just cross those 45% slopes.
The lot area issue is the reason staff is recommending a Code Amendment to
Section 3-270-030, Pre-Existing Mobile Homes and Mobile Home Parks. It
requires that all lot area would be 5,000 square feet as a minimum. Staff has
requested a Code Amendment to allow a variance to that in order to allow the
smaller lots to occur in the new section.
The Planning & Zoning Commission made three requests different from what
staff has put into the Resolution of approval. The first one is to remove the
condition that requires the petition for inclusion into the Aspen Consolidated
Sanitation District. They also wanted to remove the requirement for sprinkling for
each new unit. And, they wanted the BOCC to make a determination that the
request to encroach on slopes in excess of 45% for the water be considered a
minor slope anomaly due to the fact that it's a road cut and allow the
encroachment. Other than these three issues, Planning and Zoning agreed with
staff's recommendation and voted to recommend approval.
Glenn Horn, representing the Aspen/Pitkin County Housing Authority, as
applicant addressed the board. He said that in working with Ezra Louthis of staff,
everything appears to be in order. He did, however, want to mention that there
was an issue that had come up regarding the two additional lots across from the
Post Office and Fire Station. The applicant's charge, they believe, is to produce
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as much Affordable Housing opportunities as possible. That's the reason those
two lots are included.
Commissioner Ireland asked Mr. Horn what happens to the people who currently
live in the area shown in pink on the map. Where do they go and can they afford
to go there?
Tim Whitsitt represents the Woody Creek Mobile Home Owners Association. He
responded to Commissioner Ireland by saying that there are ten (10) that are
being eliminated and only seven (7) of them currently occupied. Those people
will have the opportunity to move to newly created lots and of the seven, six of
them have units that can actually move. There is one unit that is, due to it being
reconstructed and to its' age, probably not moveable. The cost of moving within
the Park has been represented somewhere between $3,000 and $4,500.00. The
Home Owners Association, hereinafter referred to as HOA, has considered and,
he thinks, is prepared to compensate the owners a certain amount of that cost.
There is also language in the deed restriction that would give those owners more
room under the cap. The biggest issue is the one that can't move. The HOA is
looking at overall financing to buy this whole thing out. And, as part of that
financing, their thought is that there will be some compensation to that owner for
at least a portion of the equity that the owner has in that unit. That owner will
have a chance, also, to have one of the new lots.
Commissioner Ireland said that this needs to be worked out before approval. He
said that he is committed that those people need to be compensated period, one
way or the other. If that's passed on to subsequent owners then so be it, he
concluded.
Chairperson Kay-Clapper opened the hearing to public comment.
Lanny Curtis, President of the HOA, explained the process to be used for those
who will have to move. The seven who have to move will get first pick of the ten
lots that are 3,000 square feet a piece. If everyone picks a different lot then they
get the lot they chose. If two or more pick the same lot, then the decision is
made by lottery. After that, anyone else in the park who wants to relocate will go
into a second lottery. And then after all that is satisfied it will go to the public
through Housing.
Mr. Whitsitt told the board that he thinks that the HOA does not disagree with
Commissioner Ireland's sentiments on compensation. He did, however, remind
the board that the only "pocket" here is the homeowners themselves. The
compensation will be coming from the Park, in general as there is no other
money available.
Darryl Grob, Aspen Fire Chief, addressed the boards shown in the January 10,
2005 memo to staff from Ed Van Walraven, Fire Marshall who was unable to
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attend today's meeting. There were three issues. One was fire sprinkler
systems and that all new and replacement structures must have them. Second
is the water supply. And third is placement of fire hydrants.
Regarding the sprinkler systems, Mr. Grob did say that he understands cost is an
issue. He said that he did do some investigation into manufactured housing
costs which falls somewhat below the projected figure of $5,000.00. He was also
able to determine that most insurance companies were reasonably expected to
reduce their insurance rates by anywhere from 5-15% as a consequence of
these sprinklers.
Orrin Moon of the Aspen Fire Department informed the board that many of the
manufactured homes are already being equipped with sprinkler systems. He
also added that all housing built within Affordable Housing guidelines have been
sprinkled in the last 5 to 8 years.
Chairperson Kay-Clapper reminded Mr. Moon that she was more concerned with
the older models.
Ben Ludlow, Project Manager for Asset Management for the City of Aspen
informed the board that all housing that he has been associated with since 2000
that has been done through the City, including Burlingame, is required to be
sprinkled. It's an agreement with the Aspen Fire District.
Lance Clarke, Assistant Director of Community Development, explained that at
the P&Z meeting the same debate took place. P&Z recommended to the BOCC
that they not be required to be sprinkled. Staff is still showing that as they are
going by the recommendations of the Fire District.
Chairperson Kay-Clapper requested the following issue to be brought back
for finalization at second reading on March 09, 2005. The issue is if ALL
structures must be required to have sprinkler systems. She argued that
the older trailers might not be able to support the "wiring" needed to
accommodate that type of system and wondered whether "stick" type
housing would have to be required to have it.
Park neighbor, Bill Dinsmoor, said that he attended the P&Z meeting on this
project last month. He asked if this was the best that could be done for these
residents. He said that it was certainly the easiest but not the best. He did not
like all the compromised lots throughout the Park. And, he asked, instead of
using the space in the center of the Park for a future, community building, which
may or may not have any funding, why not move some of the trailers at the end
of the Park that are encroaching on the road to that spot instead. He said that he
thinks it should be "tweaked" more to make it better.
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Mr. Dinsmoor was informed by the board that they can only act on the application
presented to them at this time, barring any issues that can be remedied before
second reading. It is not up to them to "tweak" this application further.
Mr. Whitsitt added that by and large, this is the best compromised plan that they
could have come up with. There are some strenuous differences of opinions in a
couple of areas from the things that have been asked by the applicant. He told
the board that he would go through them now, the last being the deed restriction
which he feels is the biggest point of contention between applicant and the
people who live there.
The following is a list composed and stated by Mr. Whitsitt, representing the
Homeowners Association, of those areas that have been discussed or need to be
discussed.
1 The two extra units - Mr. Whitsitt is happy to see that staff
recommendation now has gone with the 58 units instead of 60. That was
the difference between the applicant and the home owners. The HOA
doesn't want the extra density or other negative effects from gaining
those two extra units.
2 Sprinkler requirement- The HOA said no, this is something where
we're being singled out and not being treated the same as the rest of the
units. A lot of the ones being cited are multi-family units. This is not a
multi-family development. This is single family.
3 Joinder to the Aspen Consolidated Sanitation District- The HOA
does have a number of options. One of which is creating their own Metro
District which they have been looking at for a long time. The State will
require them to have a certificated operator. The HOA thinks that their
options will be cheaper than joining the Aspen San District and they
would like to have those options preserved for them.
4 Recommendation by staff of a .56 FAR with no exemption for below
grade development - The HOA thinks that this is a fairly dense
development. By giving no exemption for sub-grade and a .56, what
you're telling people to do is spread out and use up their already
unlimited yards by development on the surface, he said. If the owners
were given a .35 FAR, discussed at P&Z, with an exemption for sub-
grade development, it would allow people to develop to the maximum if
they wanted and it would be less impactive to the Park.
5 Compensation - has been discussed earlier in this meeting.
6 Wyly Fund money availability- Before buying the Park, the HOA has
some testing they must perform and some investigating. There are Wyly
funds donated by the Wyly family. He believes that those funds were
turned over by the County to the Housing Authority. The HOA is having a
very difficult time working with the Housing Authority to get authorization
to use those funds for consultants and testing among other things. The
funds are about $84-85,000.00 and are still sitting there.
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Deed Restriction -When this application was brought in for Conceptual
Submission in 2001 an RO deed restriction was a provision of that
submission. This had been discussed with the Housing Authority up
through a year ago as stated by Mr. Whitsitt. In a Housing Authority
Executive Session held in February 2004, according to Mr. Whitsitt, the
Housing board voted on a Category 4 deed restriction and that was put
into place. He said that the owners feel somewhat disappointed and
abused by that process. He said this Category 4 needs to be reviewed
and has to be changed. Why should Woody Creek Mobile Home Park be
treated any differently than other Mobile Home Parks by not getting an
RO deed restriction? He concluded by saying that the Category 4 deed
restriction does not work.
Mr. Curtis had some additional remarks. He reiterated Mr. Whitsitt's remarks but
did add remarks regarding a rental unit now in existence in the Park. He said
that there is currently an agreement in place between the Housing Authority and
one owner of one of the existing units in the Park who wants a rental unit in
perpetuity. He said it is in violation of the proposed deed restrictions and
covenants and the current lease and regulations and is inappropriate and
inconsistent and it should be rescinded.
Chairperson Kay-Clapper clarified with Mr. Curtis that the HOA wants the
opportunity to grandfather back that rental unit and have it taken away. They
don't want people living elsewhere and renting to others.
Mr. Dinsmoor addressed the board. He said that the Woody Creek Caucus
Planning Committee has never encouraged rental units in Woody Creek. He
also spoke to the .35 FAR with below grade exemption request from the HOA.
He said that any basement built will be considered a living space as egress
windows must be added. He said that he feels the owners will use the
basements as additional bedrooms.
Cindy Christensen, Operations Manager of the Housing Office said that in
October 2000 the Housing board recommend and approve a deed restriction at
Category 2 ownership. She said that there are notes and minutes that they were
fine with that. They were going to do an RO as to the person who was living
there. In other words, the price would be capped at Category 2 but the person
living there could be an RO person and that was what was approved. We have
readdressed that, she said, so the Housing Board put the Category 4 on the
property because they thought it could work. The pricing structure has two
figures. One without all the improvements which does fit basically under that
$48,000.00 which is in the deed restriction for Category 4. The other one is with
the improvements which, granted, is over that amount of money when you take
the regular improvements. When you set a price of $300,000.00 you do get 10%
of capital improvements added on top of that. So, everybody is able to add
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additional improvements on to their place on top of that so their unit isn't totally
capped at the $309,000.00 under that Category 4.
Marsha Goshorn is the Vice-Chair of the Housing Authority Board. She said that
one of the assumptions being made here is that the lot price they're talking about
includes the capital improvements. If they do what they're suggesting with the
Metropolitan District, that number isn't the number you would use. That number
would not be part of what would be deducted from their final sales price because
that is something that would be paid over a period of time. So, over the period of
time that that capital improvements is paid, it would be something that would be
added on through the years. Regarding those who may have to move she said
that if they could come up with a proposal to help those relocating and the one
that can't, then perhaps that also could be added in to the total capitol
improvements cost and done under the Metropolitan District. So, she said, there
are ways to cover some of those costs on both of them. The Housing Board was
uncomfortable with RO based upon what happened at North Forty regarding a
house being put up for sale for $1,000,000.00.
Maureen Dobson, Housing Director said that the one thing she heard
consistently from board members that they were most concerned about in terms
of having a cap was that they did not want to create such a diversified community
where you had mobile homes and then next to them huge, expensive stick
homes.
Regarding the Wyly funds, Ms. Dobson stated that the language regarding those
funds was that they were to be used for Woody Creek at the discretion of the
Housing Authority. She said that the Housing Authority was concerned about
releasing money without a clear scope of work, clear outcomes and values
attached to that. This was proposed a year and one-half ago to the HOA, she
said.
Chairperson Kay-Clapper closed the public hearing.
The board took a five minute break before proceeding with board comments.
Commissioner Hatfield had the following concerns after other concerns he had
were answered to his satisfaction.
1 He addressed several external lot line discrepancies that have evolved
throughout this process. He said there were two owners that were kind
of hanging on. He asked if this can be shown as a condition that will be
resolved.
Mr. Ludlow responded to this concern. He said that draft agreements have been
submitted recently to the lawyers of Obermeyer the sellers.
The board would prefer this to be done by second reading and final plat at
the latest.
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2 Regarding water lines and the alignment either in the road or across 45
degree slopes. He would prefer staff's recommendation for the road
alignment if he can get cost differences given to him. Can we
demonstrate that this is an anomaly?
Glenn Horn responded to this concern with information from Mr. Louthis on linear
feet calculations. He said that it's 100 feet versus 600. He said that there's a big
grade differential. It's a man made slope as a result of creating the Elam Access
Road and the rail bed and the trail.
Mr. Ludlow stated that based upon the numbers he has on Burlingame
calculations with Gould Construction he said that he sees $50 a linear foot on
installation pipe, which would mean a $25,000.00 cost increase to the
homeowners to go the long distance.
Commissioner Hatfield said that if we can verify that that is an anomaly and
the Code Section can be used he is okay with this. But, he doesn't like
abusing that Section even though it's an important reason to do it.
The board was told by staff that this is a decision the board will make.
3
Regarding PM-10 mitigation plan that hasn't been signed off on. And,
why hasn't Bud Eylar done a construction management plan, the
mitigation plan? He said that in his reading there are four elements that
have not been dealt with. They are drainage and erosion control, PM-10,
fugitive dust and construction management. And the fourth one, the
County Attorney hasn't signed off on the water. Why haven't these things
been done?
Commissioner Hatfield was informed that these issues will be dealt with
before pulling a building permit. He is okay with this.
4 Regarding the PUD Guide - how will the covenants protect the overall
dimensional standards?
Tim Whitsitt informed the board that the PUD Guide cannot be amended by the
homeowners but instead, must come to the BOCC.
Commissioner Hatfield was acceptable to this issue getting BOCC
feedback.
Commissioner Hatfield supports the Housing Authority's conservative
approach and agrees with Commissioner Ireland's fiduciary responsibility
but we have to find a way to create a standard to use that money for the
Park.
5 Regarding .56 FAR versus .35 FAR
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Mr. Louthis said that it might be better to go with .35 FAR and just do a below-
grade exemption but no other exemptions and not specify the square footage for
the below-grade exemption. Mr. Clarke said that this would end up working out
the same with maybe a little more floor area potential.
Commissioner Ireland wanted to know if the homeowners had an idea or plan for
set-backs that will allow substantial sized units on a 3,000 square foot lot.
Mr. Whitsitt said there would be 1,050 above grade under .35 is all that would be
allowed. A 10 foot setback on all sides per unit would continue. The set-back is
unit to unit. Then everybody has a little yard.
Commissioner Hatfield said that if we can incorporate that thought into
these conditions, he agrees with that so that the homeowner will have
some flexibility. He would like this articulated at second reading.
6
Regarding deed restriction only being for on-site owners and no rentals -
he agrees with this.
Cindy Christensen explained this existing rental scenario. The owner of that unit
was able to purchase something else so he rented his unit to his employee. The
housing board looked at it and since an employee was not being displaced they
allowed it. The Housing Board gave him a waver to be able to allow him to
continue renting until such time his business goes away and then he would sell
that unit to a qualified employee.
Discussion ensued on what happens if and when the employee's term of
employment is up and he or she chooses to vacate.
Commissioner Hatfield would support the homeowners request that there
be no rentals after this one. When that person leaves, there would be no
more rentals.
Chairperson Kay-Clapper said that she supports just leaving the one
person there with some restrictions and guidelines and when that person is
gone then the place goes up for sale.
Ms. Christensen said that the agreement is now that as long as an employee of
his is in that unit, he can maintain ownership of that unit and buy the lot.
Commissioner Owsley clarified that the homeowners want that renter out now.
He said that there's no hope of eviction here. He said that when this particular
person's term of employment is up with this employer then the unit should revert
back to an ownership unit and no longer be a rental unit.
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Commissioner Ireland said there was an agreement between the owner and
the Housing Authority. He is not holding up this deal for one renter. He
believes that the enforcement issue is for the homeowners, not the BOCC.
DIRECTION FOR 2ND READING - The board agrees with the Housing
Authority agreement and gives staff direction that for this one unit only as
long as that employer has one of his employees in that unit it can be rental.
And, if that current use as it is now changes then that owner must sell to a
qualified employee.
7 RO versus Category
Commissioner Hatfield is NOT in favor of RO as it exists today without
caps.
Chairperson Kay-Clapper said that Commissioner Hatfield, Commissioner
Ireland and herself, at least, feel that we need to work out a better
agreement on the deed restriction, particularly with unlimited RO.
Commissioner Farris said that she might accept RO with a cap at second
reading.
DIRECTION FOR 2ND READING - Commissioner Owsley said that what the
board is saying is that RO is totally unacceptable in its current concept.
So, the homeowners should find a Category that is acceptable or come
back with a cap range that could attach to RO.
Gary Beach addressed the board regarding the service plan for a Metro District.
He said that there are three facets. One is the services plan, the second is the
financial plan and the third is the engineering plan. At the end of 2003, the
assessed value of all property within that District was $294,000.00 because they
do not own the land. He has spoken to many lenders in this town who are
comfortable with lending probably as much money as is needed to build all these
facilities.
Commissioner Ireland had to leave for a meeting in Carbondale and gave
his comments regarding this application before he left. He thinks that if the
homeowners went to the Sanitation District maybe they could borrow the money
and contract with them. Then they would be paying them instead of HOA dues
then they would be able to deduct he payments and perhaps save 15 or 30%.
Commissioner Ireland's comments were as follows: 1 He doesn't mind slope encroachment.
2 He thinks new and replacement for sprinklers. He doesn't want to retro
that.
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3 He wants the Housing Authority to find a way to enable the Wyly money
to be used for things that have to be done such as forming a District or
whatever.
4 There has to be a compromise on RO.
5 He would request, but not demand, that the homeowners give thought to
moving those teensy little lots by the road into that 10,000 square foot
area in the middle of the Park.
6 The homeowners have asked for 3.5 FAR with sub-grade. He said that
he generally leans that way because it allows people to build in space
below which is cheaper and allows for much less development above
ground.
Discussion ensued on the 10,200 square foot area in the middle of the Park.
Mr. Horn explained that the optimistic use would be for below grade storage and
perhaps a community-common use with a one-story building above, which is the
height restriction.
Chairperson Kay-Clapper asked about cash in lieu payments for school impact
mitigation for each new lot. Will the people that have to be relocated pay for that
or will it be assumed by the HOA?
Mr. Whitsitt said that if someone moves their unit to a new lot they won't have - -
She wants to make sure that those cash in lieu payments are included in that.
Cash in lieu is for only the seven incremental new lots, not the seven relocations
responded Glenn Horn.
Commissioner Farris made her comments. She agrees with most of what has
been said to a degree.
1 She hopes that the Park doesn't turn into a totally paved 8-acre property
with regard to paving the roads and the parking lot to mitigate dust.
Mr. Horn had a comment on that issue. He said that one of the issues was what
is the PM-10 mitigation plan? There is a lot of parking in dirt areas. The
applicant's PM-10 mitigation plan is a resurfacing of all of the existing streets in
the Park and the existing dirt areas where there's parking will be paved. And
then the area where there's vacant ground that isn't irrigated right now will have
homes and landscaping on it as well as a new subdivision road. That is their
PM-10 mitigation plan. He would ask the board to find this plan acceptable
so they don't have to come back with this issue.
Commissioner Owsley's comments:
1 He said that the overriding thing is that we're adding burden after burden
to the homeowners of this Park, some of which are justified.
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He feels new home sprinklers are justified. He said that we have to allow
leeway on the upper end of Category housing for people to recover those
investments that they're making
Chairperson Kay-Clapper's comments:
1 Make sure that Darryl Grob's issue about water pressure is addressed so
if sprinklers are going in that they will actually work correctly.
2 She suggests that sprinklers go into all new structures only and not for
the replacements or the ones that are being relocated. But, she added,
we want smoke alarms in every single unit. She has concerns that some
of the older trailers can't be retrofitted for sprinklers.
Discussion ensued on Chairperson Kay-Clapper's sprinkler system issue.
It appeared that Commissioner Haffield, Commissioner Owsley and
Commissioner Farris were in favor of staff's recommendation for new AND
replacement structures being fitted for sprinklers.
County Attorney, John Ely asked for several clarifications.
Regarding condition 19 in the resolution. It shall read "all new and
replacement structures shall be sprinkled. Lance Clarke said that takes
care of the sprinkling but he also needs the recommendation on access
and water supply in there also.
DIRECTION TO STAFF to prepare correct wording by second reading on
condition 19 to the intent of the board.
2
Regarding condition 17 (Aspen Consolidated Sanitation District)in
the resolution. It was decided and agreed that condition 17 would be
eliminated. Mr. Ely suggested that if the board wants to deal with that it
could be left as an item to be put into the Protective Covenants. That
way the covenants will require a maintenance of the facility and the ability
to collect money to do so. And if and when the owners get a Metro
District going they can remove that from the covenants. This was
agreeable to all.
3
It sounds like it's implicit but never discussed in the resolution, Mr. Ely
continued, that the plat is not going to be recorded until the sewer plant is
up and running and permitted. He asked if that was the intention.
Mr. Ludlow said that it looked as if they'll be running sewage into the plant
by the end of next week or the following week. It is then the responsibility
of the licensed operator to get final approval through the State. They will
be working on this along with our consultant who did the design on that to
get all the red tags removed.
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Mr. Ely thinks that should be reflected in the resolution. The board agreed.
DIRECTION TO STAFF was to bring back as a condition for second reading.
The board agreed that the wording "at the time of installation" on condition
number 15 will be deleted.
Mr. Horn asked about condition number 3, items C, D & E. He said that the
applicant has submitted a fugitive dust control plan and a drainage and erosion
plan in the application. He would like to find out what needs to be done.
DIRECTION TO STAFF to try and review and have these items (condition
number 3, items C, D & E) finalized by second reading.
The board will require the relocation plan to come back at second reading.
Commissioner Hatfield moved to approve the detailed submission, final
plat and GMQS exemption approval for the Woody Creek Mobile Home Park
Subdivision, with direction to staff, at first reading and set second reading
to March 09, 2005. Commissioner Owsley seconded the motion.
MR. HORN INFORMED THE BOARD THAT IT IS NO LONGER THE WOODY
CREEK MOBILE HOME PARK SUBDIVISION. IT IS NOW CALLED THE
WOODY CREEK SUBDIVISION PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT. THE
WORDS MOBILE HOME PARK WILL BE STRICKEN THROUGHOUT THE
DOCUMENTATION.
Chairperson Kay-Clapper called the question. Motion passed 4 to 0 with
Commissioner Ireland not present.
Commissioner Hatfield moved to approve the ordinance repealing and re-
enacting Section 3-270-030, pre-existing mobile homes and mobile home
parks. Commissioner Owsley seconded the motion. Motion passed 4 to 0
with Commissioner Ireland not present.
Commissioner Hatfield moved to approve the ordinance granting a
rezoning from special residential (SR) to Mobile Home Park planned unit
development (MHP/PUD) for the Woody Creek Mobile Home Park.
Commissioner Owsley seconded the motion. Motion passed 4 to 0 with
Commissioner Ireland not present.
CONTINUED FIRST READING AND PUBLIC HEARING ON RESOLUTION OF
THE PITKIN COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS' GRANTING
THE SCHLUMBERGER MAJOR PLAT AMENDMENT FOR LOT 2, RIVER
DIVIDE SUBDIVISION - STAFF PERSON: EZRA LOUTHIS, COUNTY
PLANNER; MARTIN SCHLUMBERGER - APPLICANT - MOTION TO
APPROVE, AS AMENDED
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Ezra Louthis proceeded with his presentation as outlined in his memorandum.
Since the last hearing on this application, the Colorado Division of Wildlife
submitted a letter supporting the County Wildlife Biologist, Jonathan Lowsky's
recommendation that the barn and/or CDU be located below the Eli Cerise Ditch.
The area that is currently disturbed on the northern portion of the lot is 1.66 acres
and is located above the Eli Cerise Ditch.
Mr. Schlumberger began his own presentation. He said that he has decided to
go along with the trend that Commissioner Ireland was going for at the last
meeting which was to put the barn and CDU in the disturbed area above the
Ditch. The main house would be in the lower site and it would have the retaining
wall around it and it would eliminate building this wall around any other structure
such as the barn and CDU.
When asked how big the main house and the existing "yellow" part (on the map)
were, he said that he's not at 5750 but he's not asking for 10,000 like all the
neighbors are building either.
The barn is exempt from the 5750 calculations, announced Mr. Louthis.
Commissioner Farris asked if there were any way to build in there without the
retaining wall.
The reply was a resounding no.
You would only have to build it 2-feet high, Mr. Schlumberger stated. But, the
USGS "boys" have a 3-foot buffer you have to add on top of the 2-feet. That's
where the 5-feet height comes in. The recommended material to build this wall
was big concrete blocks that often used in temporary retaining, but there are
other materials that could be used as well.
Chairperson Kay-Clapper opened the hearing to public comment.
Joseph E. Edwards, III represents Mr. Schlumberger's neighbor, Paul
Theofaunous and his family. Mr. Edwards made comments as shown in his
February 17, 2005 letter to the board. It appears that the only remaining issues,
according to Mr. Edwards' letter, are the location of the barn and CDU and the
size of the northern envelope. Mr. Edwards understood from the last meeting
that the board requested a survey of the disturbed areas. He has heard tonight
that digital mapping of some kind was used and came up with 1.66 acres. He
has no idea what was and what was not included in that 1.66 acres. He said that
Mr. Theofaunous would be happy to pay for and have done a professional survey
by a licensed surveyor and label exactly what areas are in and what areas are
not in and show all the improvements on what areas are disturbed. He said that
he thinks the board should require the survey.
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Mr. Edwards further requested several additions to the draft resolution. On
condition number 2 he said that any amended plats should also show things such
as acreage and existing improvements. In addition to the CDU, Mr. Edwards
continued, he would like condition number 4 to also say that the barn should be
located only in the primary envelope. With regard to the size of the structure
necessary to stop the debris flow, he added, as long as the barn is located to the
west of the primary house in that primary envelope the structure doesn't have to
get any longer.
Mr. Edwards mentioned that at the last meeting, Commissioner Ireland was
pushing the idea of putting the barn in the northern envelope to minimize areas of
new disturbance. By having the barn above the Ditch and in the disturbed area,
he continued, you would increase the impacts on wildlife and on the neighbor.
Right now, the northern envelope is used occasionally in the summer. It is not
used 7 days a week 365 days a week. If a barn and CDU are put up there, he
contended, it will be used constantly and a much greater impact on the neighbor.
Regarding condition number 17, Mr. Edwards would like the second sentence
deleted which reads, "in the event the applicant chooses to build the barn in the
agricultural envelope, the CDU shall be located in the principal envelope and
shall be calculated as floor area, however, the barn shall be allowed to be 2,500
square feet exempt from the calculation of floor area".
Linda Waag gave her public comments. She said that that family isn't here right
now and that Mr. Edwards said that that upper parcel is not used except just
during the summer.
Mr. Edwards said that is what he's been told.
Ms. Waag said that is not true. She said that the family isn't here but maybe five
weeks out of the year and they're here in the summer. That's when it's used
primarily. If they're not here for the rest of the time, what difference is it making,
she asked?
Chairperson Kay-Clapper closed the public hearing.
Mr. Schlumberger made further comments. To further clarify a question from
Commissioner Farris, he replied that the disturbed area that he measured is 1.66
acres. The 1.75 is the acreage he is allowed to have disturbed. He went on to
add that Mr. Theofaunous bought this property in 1998 after this all happened.
He said that he knew all about it and he's here all the time so he doesn't
understand what he's complaining about now.
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Mr. Schlumberger wants the total barn at 2500 plus the CDU included in that
2500 as it was given to him in the original subdivision. He is not complaining
about the size he just doesn't want it all in the bottom unit.
Commissioner Farris and Commissioner Hatfield would like the development of
the barn and CDU in the lower portion as it is best for the wildlife and the
neighbor but, unfortunately, not for the applicant.
Chairperson Kay-Clapper asked the board if they wanted to take advantage
of the survey offer on the disturbed area from Mr. Theofaunous.
Commissioner Farris said that if the board agrees that everything goes on the
lower parcel then there's no need for the survey, in her mind, because there's no
change in what's already there.
Chairperson Kay-Clapper asked the board where they wanted the barn and
CDU.
Commissioner Farris said the primary envelope.
Commissioner Owsley commented that he thought Commissioner Ireland already
felt that we had a disturbed area up there that was going to be used no matter
what and it was going to be used for agricultural purposes. So you might as well
have the associated agricultural buildings where the agricultural use is going to
be. He said that he would also put one unit there attached to the barn. To him, it
makes a lot of sense, he concluded.
Commissioner Hatfield said that if he played devil's advocate he would say that
this is going to be disturbed with a 5750 so why not consolidate the impacts up
here on the already existing future - - where the primary residence is going to be.
It appears that Commissioner Hatfield and Chairperson Kay-Clapper want the
barn and CDU on the upper portion above the Eli Cerise Ditch.
The other option stated Chairperson Kay-Clapper is to put the barn above and
the CDU below.
Discussion ensued on this option.
Commissioner Owsley moved to place the CDU and the barn on the
(disturbed) upper parcel above the Eli Cerise Ditch as long as the parcel
does not exceed the restrictions of the survey requirements. Chairperson
Kay-Clapper seconded the motion.
Mr. Louthis asked if the survey would be done and paid for by Mr.
Theofaunous?
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Mr. Edwards informed the board that if they put the CDU and the barn up
there, he doubts that his offer would still be valid. His offer was to get it
done now so that the board could see if the applicant was in compliance
now.
Mr. Schlumberger said that he would have to survey the property anyway
to do a new plat amendment so he was okay with this.
Mr. Edwards informed the board that when Mr. Theofaunous was here at the
January meeting he clearly said that he DID NOT want the barn in the northern
envelope. He would much rather have it in the lower primary envelope, this
includes all of the new structures.
Chairperson Kay-Clapper made the following amendment as part of her
second to Commissioner Owsley's motion. Her concern is to the use of the
CDU (is it really going to be associated with the 5750 dwelling or with the
barn). She reminded Mr. Schlumberger that his plan was just to do 5750
and restrict it to that. So, she would like to limit the house and the primary
envelope to 5750.
Mr. Schlumberger isn't exactly happy with totally limiting the property as he
doesn't want to stop somebody else in the future from using TDRs, etc to get
additional square footage if they want it.
Chairperson Kay-Clapper withdrew her second and amendment to
Commissioner Owsley's motion.
Commissioner Owsley's motion died for lack of a second.
Commissioner Farris then made a motion that all construction activity
occurs in the lower envelope.
Her motion died for lack of a second as well.
Mr. Schlumberger then said that he wanted to move his agricultural envelope
around the corner and put the barn in that main development envelope. That
area is currently used as a pasture.
Commissioner Farris moved to support the expansion of the primary
envelope (so that he can reconfigure the site) and expansion for the
landscaping envelope for mitigation. Chairperson Kay-Clapper seconded
the motion. Motion passed 4 to 0 with Commissioner Ireland not present.
Chairperson Kay-Clapper moved to put the CDU and the barn in the
existing residential primary building envelope at the bottom and no
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additional agricultural envelopes or whatever. Commissioner Farris
seconded the motion. Motion passed 3 to I with Commissioner Hatfield
voting nay and Commissioner Ireland not present.
CONTINUED FIRST READING AND PUBLIC HEARING ON ORDINANCE OF
THE PITKIN COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS' CREATING A
NEW ZONE DISTRICT ENTITLED TRANSITIONAL RESIDENTIAL (1) ZONE
DISTRICT (TR-1), TO BE INCLUDED IN THE PITKIN COUNTY LAND USE
CODE - AND REZONING CERTAIN PROPERTIES WITHIN THE EAST OF
ASPEN/INDEPENDENCE PASS PLANNING AREA TO THE TRANSITIONAL
RESIDENTIAL (1) ZONE DISTRICT - STAFF PERSON: CINDY HOUBEN,
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR - MOTION TO APPROVE ON
FIRST READING AND PUBLIC HEARING AND SET SECOND READING TO
MARCH 09, 2005
Cindy Houben began her presentation by informing the board that the exhibit and
the ordinance that were published in the paper (see map exhibit marked
published map) will come back to the bourdon March 09, 2005. It went through
P&Z last night, she added. Ms. Houben said that at the P&Z meeting, staff had
decided to take that portion out of that consideration because of the ownership
being mostly Pitkin County (some of the mining claims that went to the Forest
Service as part of the whole swap), U.S. Forest Service land, a parcel that's
already been developed lower down within the City jurisdiction and a couple of
other claims that come down but actually have development potential in the City
limits, and that there really is no reason to be rezoning this at this time. It really
ought to be, she continued, the Conservation/Natural Resource Zone District
given the ownerships in this area.
So, staff is proposing that this area not be rezoned tonight. The other map
(marked Revised PZ map) reflects the Shadow Mountain side and, because this
is a more lenient proposal, you would not have to go back to re-publishing the
actual map for re-zoning purposes.
Chairperson Kay-Clapper opened the hearing to public comment. There
being none, she closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Farris moved to approve the ordinance at first reading and
public hearing and set second reading to March 09, 2005. Commissioner
Owsley seconded the motion. Motion passed 4 to 0 with Commissioner
Ireland not present.
LAND USE ACTIONS:
READING ON RESOLUTION OF THE PITKIN COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY
COMMISSIONERS' DENYING THE SIEMEL APPEAL OF A DENIED
BUILDING PERMIT APPLICATION (CONTINUED FROM JANUARY 26, 2005
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AT THE REQUEST OF APPLICANT) - STAFF PERSON: JOANNA S
SCHAFFNER, COUNTY ZONING OFFICER; SALLIE GOLDEN AND
CARLTON SIEMEL -APPLICANTS - DIRECTION TO BRING THIS BACK
WHEN THERE IS A FULL BOARD
A letter dated February 17, 2005 from the applicants to the BOCC was submitted
before today's meeting. It can be found in the additional exhibits attached to the
BOCC meeting packet.
Chairperson Kay-Clapper made a disclosure that she is friends with the
applicants, Sallie Golden and Carlie Siemel but they have gone to extreme
measures not to talk about the "B" word (basement).
Joanna Schaffner announced the applicants and Jennifer Hall of Holland & Hart
who represents the applicants.
Ms. Schaffner continued with her presentation as outlined in her memorandum.
She explained the history and progression of the below grade interpretations with
drawings attached to her memorandum and gave staff's reasons for denial.
Commission Farris said that her feeling is that the idea was put in because
allowing below grade space took away from the scenic impact of a bigger
building. And, by the applicants doing what they've done they've accomplished
this goal. She is willing to accept what the applicants want to do.
Jennifer Hall, applicants' representative proceeded with her presentation based
upon her February 17, 2005 letter to the board. Ms. Hall submitted two drawings.
One drawing is of the proposed basement and one is of the approved basement.
These drawings can be found in the additional exhibits attached to the BOCC
meeting packet.
Ms. Hall said that she believes there is an ambiguity in the Code and feels that
the applicants have met both the letter of what's there and the intent. She said
that she doesn't know what to tell staff on how to proceed in the future.
Commissioner Hatfield said that natural light goes in there so it's exposed. If it
wasn't exposed, it wouldn't receive light.
Commissioner Farris made a motion to grant the appeal by calling attention
to recital number 5 of the draft resolution GRANTING the appeal of the
denied building permit PREPARED BY THE APPLICANTS. It reads, the
BOCC finds that the proposed access does not alter the below grade area
such that it will be exposed above the natural or finished grade or
otherwise exposed so as to have visual impact from the outside of the
home, AND THEREFORE COMPLIES with the below grade exemption from
Floor Area allowed in the Urban Growth Boundary. Commissioner Farris
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said she would DELETE everything after the words AND THEREFORE
COMPLIES as she doesn't know if it's accurate. She did say, however, that
she would add THEREFORE it's consistent with the intent which is to
reduce the scenic impact. She does not support the denial.
John Ely, County Attorney asked Commissioner Farris if she was granted the
appeal to which she responded, yes.
He said that what he would recommend was to flesh that out at some point
before the board signs off on it. He does not feel there's an ambiguity in the
definition at all.
Commissioner Farris said that she didn't mean to support an ambiguity.
He said that it's a clever approach but it's not provided for here. Mr. Ely said that
if she wants to do it, she should do it within the context of a change that's going
to recognize what's being done and allow it.
Ms. Schaffner asked if it was going to be as a Code amendment or specific to
this case?
Mr. Ely said as a Code Amendment so that everyone else knows that this is an
avenue until some future change can be pursued.
Further discussion ensued.
Commissioner Farris' motion failed for lack of a second.
Commissioner Farris moved to go into Executive Session at 8:50 PM.
Commissioner Hatfield seconded the motion. Motion passed 4 to 0 with
Commissioner Ireland not present.
The board returned to the regular meeting at 9:02 PM.
Commissioner Hatfield moved to deny the appeal based upon staff
findings. He does not believe that the Code is ambiguous. Commissioner
Owsley seconded the motion. MOTION FAILED due to two yea votes from
Commission Hatfield and Commissioner Owsley and two nay votes from
Commissioner Farris and Chairperson Kay-Clapper. (Commissioner Ireland
not present)
Commissioner Farris made a motion to grant the appeal and memorialize
the effect of the appeal within the County's regulatory scheme.
Commissioner Kay-Clapper seconded the motion. MOTION FAILED due to
two yea votes from Chairperson Kay-Clapper and Commissioner Farris and
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two nay votes from Commissioner Hatfield and Commissioner Owsley.
(Commissioner Ireland not present)
The board was deadlocked. This appeal will be brought back when a full boards
in session.
Commissioner Hatfield moved to continue this appeal for a full board vote
to March 09, 2005. Commissioner Owsley seconded the motion. Motion
passed 4 to 0 with Commissioner Ireland not present.
TIMROTH PARCEL C 1041 HAZARD REVIEW AND CONCEPTUAL
SUBMISSION -TAKINGS DETERMINATION -STAFF PERSON: SUZANNE
WOLFF, SENIOR COUNTY PLANNER; ALBERT G. TIMROTH REVOCABLE
TRUST AND DONNA M. TIMROTH REVOCABLE TRUST - APPLICANTS;
MITCH HAAS- APPLICANTS' REPRESENTATIVE; LEONARD OATES-
APPLICANTS' ATTORNEY - MOTION TO FIND THAT A TAKING HAS
OCCURRED AND DIRECT STAFF TO COME BACK WITH A RESOLUTION
OF MITIGATION
Lance Clarke made Suzanne Wolff's presentation in her absence as outlined in
her memorandum to the board dated February 23, 2005.
Mitch Haas, applicant's representative, said that this is exactly the same building
envelope as approved in 2001. He's not looking to change conditions. He
continued to address the boards outlined in his February 16, 2005 letter to staff.
Leonard Oates, legal representative for the Timroth Trust, told the board that
when they adopted the TR-2 zone district, he had asked for special consideration
in connection with that in terms of this application's location and the fact that the
infrastructure was in for development of these lots. At that time, the board
declined to do so but indicated that they would be receptive to an extended
vested rights period and would treat the applicant the same as they would the
mine property. He said they then amended their application to ask for an
extended vested rights period.
Mr. Haas added a caveat that staff had said if the applicant goes through the
takings process and the board finds that there is a takings, then the application
would be continued to a date far enough out to do a public notice and consider a
vested rights period with the remediation resolution.
Lance Clarke explained to the board that if they find a takings, staff would be
directed to come back to the board with a resolution of mitigation and
remediation. Staff would set that meeting far enough down the line that staff
could also advertise for a request for extension of vested rights. He didn't know
how long a period of vesting they were asking
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Mr. Oates said that they asked for 15 years.
Mr. Haas had some requests for changes in BOCC Resolution 117-2001. The
board was told by Lance Clarke that their only charge this evening was to find a
Takings or to not find a Takings.
Commissioner Farris moved to find that a taking has occurred and directed
staff to come back with a resolution of mitigation. Commissioner Hatfield
seconded the motion. Motion passed 4 to 0 with Commissioner Ireland not
present.
ADJOURNMENT:
Chairperson Kay-Clapper moved to adjourn the meeting at 9:25 PM.
Commissioner Farris seconded the motion. Motion passed 4 to 0 with
Commissioner Ireland not present.
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Respectfully submitted,
Clerk to the Board of County Commissioners
atti Kay-Clappe~/
Chairperson of the Board of County Commissioners
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