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Minutes
OPEN SPACE AND TRAILS BOARD
MEETING OF DECEMBER 18, 2001
Courthouse Conference Room
Board Members Present:
Tom Cardamone, John Starr, Hawk Greenway, Bill Fales
Others Present: Dale Will, Barb Hogan, Hilary Smith, Ellen Sassano, John Ely
Bill Fales called the meeting to order at approximately 10:15 a.m.
EXECUTIVE SESSION
The Board voted unanimously to move into Executive Session at 10: 15 a.m., in accordance with CRS
24-6-402( 4)(a), for the purpose of discussing personnel. The Board went out of Executive Session at
10:30 a.m.
APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES
Minutes of December 6, 2001 Regular Session and Executive Session for the OSTB meeting and the
OSTBIBOCC meeting were approved as amended.
STAFF COMMENTS
. Land Steward Job Description
The Board discussed the draft job description for the Land Steward position. Bill expressed
nervousness about empowering this position too much, noting that the description read as if the Land
steward was in charge of "all facets" of public outreach and other functions. Bill wanted it clarified
that this position was not in charge of such tasks, but is under supervision of the OST Director. The
same concern was expressed for other aspects such as seeking outside funding. Tom suggested
prefacing the "Sunnnary of Functions" with a statement such as "All functions are under the
supervision of the Open Space Director". John noted that the percentages needed to be corrected and
that the statement "must be able to lift 50 pounds regularly" could be considered as discriminatory.
The Board postponed the rest of the conversation until after the rezoning discussion.
Proposed Rezoning
Ellen Sassano and John Ely were present to discuss the proposed restructuring with the OSTB. Ellen
stated that the overarching intent of the proposed rezoning is to implement recommendations of several
master plans. The most recent of these plans specifies urban growth boundaries (UGB) in which
development should be concentrated and the desire to keep rural areas rural. Bill commented that the
maps that were at the public meeting the other day included a portion of his property in the Carbondale
UGB. Ellen replied that the maps were very rough and that they are still figuring out what makes sense
for zone locations. Ellen said that the resources being conserved by the RC zone were wildlife habitat,
agricultural lands, large tracts of open lands and rural character. John Ely added that the proposed zone
will be a transition between Rural and Remote and residential lots, and that its location would be an
. issue of neighborhood character. John Ely clarified that the issue was if the proposed zoning was a
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good idea. If so, then it can be determined where the zoning should go. John Starr felt that the issue
should be looked at on a case-by-case basis.
Hawk asked about the effect that this will have on the OST program and if the program will be
mandated to purchase easements. John Ely replied that acquisitions cannot be mandated. He said that
the rezoning will effect property values.
Ellen described the specifics of the rezoning, noting that things are changing as public input is being
considered. Currently, the proposal contains incentives for large landowners (200 acres or more) to do
a land plan that clusters development to 15% of the property and preserves 85% through a deed
restriction or conservation easement. This option allows the landowner two residential developments
of 5750 sq. ft., two TDRs for sale off site, and for agricultural operations 2500 sq. ft. of commercial
space for use that augments the agricultural operation and one ranch manager's unit. Landowners that
do not put to put their land in a conservation land plan are limited to 2000 sq. ft. per 35-acre tract
which includes residential space and accessory buildings.
Ellen said that the R-35 zone, which is residential subdivisions such as Sopris Mountain Ranch, would
be permitted one 5750 sq. ft. resident per 35-acre tract, with the ability to increase up to 7500,10000,
or 12500 sq. ft. with the purchase ofTDRs. John Ely clarified that for now, TDRs still increased
square footage by increments of2500. Ellen said that staff was going to analyze the numbers ofTDRs
and TDR receiving sites that this proposal will create. She added that, to date, there have been many
more TDR receiver sites created through land use approvals that certification ofTDRs, and that the
supply ofTDRs from Rural and Remote is dwindling.
John Starr asked if conservation easements are mandated by this proposal and questioned if there
would be any tax benefit for an easement on land that is restricted by zoning. Ellen responded that
landowners could deed restrict the 85% of the property rather than place a conservation easement on
their land. Ely noted that determining the value of a conservation easement was the dilemma. He said
the option to place a conservation easement was included to "soften the blow", enabling landowners to
convey an easement before submitting the land plan. The Board and Dale recommended consulting
Steven Smalls and Bill Hutton to get a sense of how the IRS would react to easement values for RC-
zoned properties. Dale added that conservation easements are not just added incentive for the
landowner, but they also cement the conservation of the property in the event that zoning changes later
on.
Ellen emphasized that this proposal is still evolving as public input is received and noted that one point
of criticism is in regard to properties of less that 200 acres. Currently, these properties are restricted to
the 2000 sq. ft. per 35-acre tract. However, this may be one area that is reconsidered.
Other aspects of the proposed rezoning were discussed. Ely responded to questions and noted that the
prohibition against common interest communities was a restriction on time-share properties, and added
that the County cannot restrict against various vehicles of ownership, such as communes, trusts,
partnerships, land condominiums, etc. Ely emphasized that this proposal is all subject to change at this
point and quoted Joe Krabacher (of Planning and Zoning) saying that this proposal is how the County
is trying to deal with State law.
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Bill pointed out that developing a land plan is an expensive process and that meeting these
requirements could force the need for additional development in order for a landowner to get his
money back. Ellen said that this is the sort of feedback staff needs and requested that Bill come meet
with staff.
Hawk asked if Rural and Remote was getting modified by this proposal. Ely said not substantially.
Hawk asked if the OSTB could get a look at the maps, and added that it would be a good exercise for
the OSTB to look at these maps with magic markers in hand to see what properties the program should
be pursuing. The other board members and staff agreed and Ellen said that she would get a copy of
maps for the OSTB once they are cleaned up (the maps, not the OSTB).
The Board discussed other strategies for conserving agricultural lands, including subsidies and leasing
ag land. John Starr felt that these strategies could be a discussion for the next meeting's agenda. The
OSTB asked John Ely for an opinion of if program funds could be used to protect land outside of Pitkin
County. John said that he would look into the matter.
The Board thanked John and Ellen as they departed.
Land Steward Job Description
Tom asked if this position would be enforcing Title IX regulations. The issue was discussed along
with the role of the sheriffs office and the position of ranger/naturalist. Dale informed the Board that
he is working on getting the form of a summons approved so that the sheriff s office can begin
addressing the squatters on OST property. Board members were in agreement that the
Ranger/Naturalist position should be revisited after the effectiveness of the sheriffs office is
determined and after the Land Steward is hired. The Board agreed that it should be noted in the Land
Steward job description that this position has enforcement capabilities.
Hawk informed the Board that he will be applying for the job.
EXECUTIVE SESSION
The Board voted unanimously to move into Executive Session at 12:15 p.m., in accordance with CRS
24-6-402( 4)(a), for the purpose of discussing acquisitions. The Board adjourned Executive Session at
1 :00 p.m.
ADJOURN
The OSTB meeting was adjourned at approximately 1 :05 p.m.
Approved
Attest
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